Check out this website, sounds bogus to me

[21gone]

http://www.askdocweb.com/procerin.html

Go through it and read they have a study and feedback. I was wondering if it was connected to the company at all? Sounds a bit fishy to me, especially with some of the "docs" replies. Just wondering what everyone else thought or possibly if they knew if procerin owned this website as well.

 

[HairFreak]

Well don’t you see that they have an affiliate link.
They make percentage of each sale that they refer, so no wonder that they promote it.
It's just bunch of BS.

 

[HairlossTalk]

Just another site promoting the product. They claim to be doing a "Study" on it. Just like the people at Procerin, they're claiming "user feedback" is equivilent to a "study". So they set up a page where anyone can post their opinion of it, anonymously, and maybe even multiple times under multiple names if they want ... and thats their "study". Probably the least scientific or verifiable way of collecting data we've ever heard of. We emailed them to ask why they consider it a legit study and never heard back. We emailed the people at Procerin as well, with another question.

Funny thing - the people at procerin replied "Weve gotten all your emails from our various sites".

I replied - "I only emailed you guys once. The only other site I emailed was AskDocWeb. I guess you own that site too"

Im very glad we got that list of articles out about Procerin this month. If you type "Procerin" into google, two of them are on the first page.

Good.

HairLossTalk.com

 

[21gone]

Seeing that article was the first thing that led me to this site, thank goodness. Since I started browsing and then became a member I have actually started doing something about my hairloss that is officially proven by official studies.

 

[MBV]

Just another site promoting the product. They claim to be doing a "Study" on it. Just like the people at Procerin, they're claiming "user feedback" is equivilent to a "study". So they set up a page where anyone can post their opinion of it, anonymously, and maybe even multiple times under multiple names if they want ... and thats their "study". Probably the least scientific or verifiable way of collecting data we've ever
HairLossTalk.com

This may be true. However, if you look at askdocweb's review of Avacor, there is a portion of it that is WORD FOR WORD right off this site's review of Avacor. Check out the Avacor Hair Loss Scam link on this site and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Therein lies the problem. Who are we to believe? Any web site claiming to give objective information about hair loss, including this one, could be a fake site designed to promote some product or other. Askdocweb seems to promote Procerin and Propecia (Finasteride). This site seems to promote Finasteride and Minoxidil. This site seems to debase Procerin, but both sites have almost the same exact (verbatim in one section) negative review of Avacor.

So once again, who do we believe? Where are we to, if anywhere, spend our hard-earned cash to try and fight our hair loss?

Any comments, official or otherwise, would be helpful.

 

[AKA]

The big difference is that Minoxidil and Finasteride are both FDA treatments for hairloss!

Mmmm.... who am I to believe?

A site which gives information about clinically proven treatments, or one which praises an arbitrary selection of commercial products?

Tough decision!

Maybe Asdocweb does borrow this site's criticism of Avacor. But only so as to make it's promotion of Procerin look more convincing. Procerin's whole angle is to try and position itself alongside Propecia and minoxidil as one of the only proven hairloss treatments.

 

[new1__1]

Saw Palmetto

Check out this website.....

http://www.feedforspeed.com/forums/inde ... wtopic=568

 

[drinkrum]

Re: Saw Palmetto

Check out this website.....

http://www.feedforspeed.com/forums/inde ... wtopic=568

Regarding the poll: The sample size is a whopping 6. You can't derive _any_ significance based on that. Also, the population is going to be biased.

But the medical studies are interesting. There was another study comparing finasteride and saw palmetto in the reputed journal "Urology" in 2001. Finasteride destroyed saw palmetto in terms of blocking DHT but saw palmetto apparently managed to block 32% of DHT in the prostate. I don't know how this would affect balding men, however.

D.

P.S. Here's a link to that article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Citation