Azelaic Acid

[Guest]

If Azelaic acid inhibits 100% DHT in the scalp, then why bother with propecia, if you are getting sides...??? And if your problem is ONLY the temples or the vertex??

And anyone knows where to buy it??? Without it's mixed with minoxidil...!

 

[Bryan]

Let's put it this way: IF it were really able to reduce DHT by 100% where it was applied, then you wouldn't NEED to use Propecia. But there is no evidence that it's able to do that, so you better keep using your Propecia! :wink:

Bryan

 

[Guest]

you have a good point Bryan... but it DOES inhibit DHT doesn't it??? I cant continue with propecia... i've denied it and hoped it would pass away, but now i can for sure say, that it has fucked with my mind... i'm kind of depressed all the time... no aggresivity... allways a little sad...! and I KNOW it's because of the propecia..! It started a few days after...

And i know my mind very well...! + My libido is very weak, and i dont feel horny as i used to..!! my sexlife is noooo good... was better before.. and i'm 19... cant 'f***' my sexlife at this age.. dont you see?

Wouldt i have a GOOD chance with Azelaic acid and topical spironolactone?? + my minoxidil and nizoral.. im VERY slow progressing, my father whos a doctor dont even think i have male pattern baldness!

I can get azelaic acid for akne in a gel 15% in my country...! Could i use this??

 

[Bryan]

If you're THAT desperate to get off the Propecia, then go ahead and quit it and start using a good topical regimen. I personally doubt that azelaic acid will do much good for you, but that certainly doesn't mean that you can't try it out anyway.

Bryan

 

[thin=depressed]

Dr. Razack of CRINAGEN topical says b6 and zinc are needed as well in making azelaic 90% effective.

 

[Guest]

hmm... ok.. what about topical spironolactone?????

and doesnt that doctor just say that to sell his product???

and if not, then how about this crinagen??? does it work??? then i should get that instead?? together with spironolactone?

please help guys, im a little lost right now... that propecia is no good for me.. but i know it is for MANY others..

 

[lordhair]

I wish these topicals were put through some FDA trials so we would all know one way or another how effective they are

 

[viperfish]

hmm... ok.. what about topical spironolactone?????

and doesnt that doctor just say that to sell his product???

and if not, then how about this crinagen??? does it work??? then i should get that instead?? together with spironolactone?

please help guys, im a little lost right now... that propecia is no good for me.. but i know it is for MANY others..

Topical spironolactone is your best bet based on some adequate research. However, positive reports are lacking from user feedback. However, alot of variables have to be taken into account, like how long they have been using the spironolactone, etc., etc., and etc.

 

[eliazush]

Hi. I would give fluridil a try. Should work better than spironolactone, and it is backed up by some researches....

Good luck,

 

[Guest]

thank you for all the help... you know what, today i'm feeling much better, think i'll stick with the propecia for a bit longer and see hiw things will work out.. what the hell, i can always quit later...! I've also done 2mg and i'll just lower to 1 mg..! Maybe this has something to say..! maybe not... *i'm on roids, yes maybe stupid i know, so there can be lots of things playing with my mind.... i've orderd spironolactone and crinagen....! I'll add spironolactone ones at night time... and then maybe get some fluridil to if i decides to quit the propecia FOR GOOD... but while on roids i dont dare to quit propecia...! later maybe...!!!

damn... you guys know this situation...? the one day you want to quit propecia... the next day you want..! then you want to quit minoxidil then you want... and so on so on... allways changing and never happy or calm..! Damn... this thing is driving me crazy!!!!!!

 

[global]

Don't forget that steroids can make you lose libido aswell, so its best not to make any judgements until you've been off for a while.

 

[Guest]

yeah, i know.... but the problem is not really the libido issues.... it's the foggy mind.... i really feel weird ALL the time.. nothing can make me really happy.. i feel like if i did ecstacy last weekend...!!

I did that earlier in my life, and it was HELL!!!!! im so happy that it's over and that i can stay clean now...!!!! And therefore it SUCKS having the same depressed feeling..! i KNOW it's because of propecia, cause everything was doing great, but 2 days after starting it started, and have been there ever since...

then last week i did some anadrol as a kickstart in my cycle... and i felt SOOOO good...! everything was back in normal and it was nice..! after quitting anadrol and swithing to dianabol im back on the old depressing track...! And im CONVINCED it's because og anadrols high DHT levels..! dont remember if it's DHT or a DHT look a like...! But dbol doesnt have that and is converting to...! So.... you see??? So based on all this, im sure DHT is very important for me and my mood... and therefore my social life and everything else...!

Am i totally wrong in all this...???

And Global how are you doing with your spironolactone??? I've just orderd some to..! Really hope it works!!

 

[Guest]

and if i really SHOULD switch to topicals only... would Fluridil be my best bet??

 

[hair_tomorrow]

Dr. Razack of CRINAGEN topical says b6 and zinc are needed as well in making azelaic 90% effective.

I tried the topical route for the better part of a year before relenting due to more and more hairloss and finally going back on proscar.

Included in my myriad of topicals was revivogen serum - which contains azaelic acid, b6, zinc, and a bunch of other great sounding ingredients. Didn't help me - which is not to say that it won't help you.

Like Bryan said - try the topical route and maybe you'll get lucky. Some do.

(I manage to apply xandrox15 before bed maybe 4 - 5 x per week. So I'm still getting a little az acid on my scalp these days. This'll be my 2nd bottle of xandrox15 - and I'm not sure if I'll re-up after this one's done. I don't think I'm getting enough <if any> return for my money )

 

[Guest]

daaaamn... this is a hard one... i just really want to find out if my mood gets better if i quit propecia...!!! and my hairloss is sooo slow progressing + i think im responding to the minoxidil... (small dark thin hairs overall in the temples!) soo i think i'll try spironolactone and retin-a with my minoxidil and nizoral .... if it cant do the trick i can jump back on propecia...! But wouldn't it be smart to stop for a while with propecia and see if i will feel better?? and see IF IF IF IF the topicals can do the trick alone??? if im lucky????

damn damn damn.... its driving me crazy this sh*t

 

[Guest]

what would you do??? still stick with propecia...? i've done 6 weeks....!!!!

still a chance sides can pass away??? or would they have passed away now IF they should?????

 

[hair_tomorrow]

what would you do??? ?

It's your call - but if it were me, and I thought I'd given a product its fair shot and I was unhappy with how things were going - I'd bail and go w/ Plan B.

There's no law saying you can't stop propecia and then resume later if you wanted. (I quit for 5 years - but topicals just don't work for me),

 

[Guest]

i'm a little slow here.... plan b was to stick with propecia and see how things will turn out??? :shock: or??

and if i keep feeling depressed i'll stop and see if i can do the trick with topicals.. and if not, back on Propecia...???

thats the deal??

i can see you are on 1 mg eod..? why is that? you get less sides?? maybe i should try that before quitting for good??

 

[hair_tomorrow]

If you're not happy doing what you're doing currently - then Plan B would be to do something else.

I'm doing the 1mg eod (lately though it's been 1.25 mg eod) because from all we've learned, you only really need .2 mg every day; lessening of the sides is indeed an added bonus.

If you really want to test out a reduced dosage - you should quit finasteride for a few weeks or for however long it takes for your hormones to get back to normal. And then resume finasteride on a lower dosage.

 

[md2002]

Dude....Is it possible the Steroids are causing the mood swings and hair loss and depression. Why don't you do yourself, and your body, a favor and quit the steroids first. If you still feel the same way quit propecia.

I think it's funny that people are going to quit Propecia because of what it is doing to there bodies or mind but have no problem with pumping steroids ( which ARE illegal, and have deadly side effects! ) into there body.