Article - The Balder You Are The Higher Chance You'll Get Prostate Cancer

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Hi Everyone,

Interesting article I read this morning, suggesting that men who are balder (have more testosterone / dht) circulating in their system, the higher the chance they will get prostate cancer...

http://news.nationalpost.com/health...more-likely-he-will-get-prostate-cancer-study

What I find curious is this association between testosterone (I suspect they mean dht) and cancer. If we are getting cancer, I believe that is our body's way of saying, that something in our food or our environment is causing our bodies to grow cancerous tumors, so what is that. In this case, it appears to be whatever is allowing dht to circulate more widely compared to other people. Propecia is supposed to decrease dht and ward off cancer as a consequence. The DHT is what affects both out prostate and our follicles.

So the question is, how can we descrease dht? I believe it can be achieved a couple ways - 1) to avoid testosterone inducing foods, 2) via supplements, 3) an anti-inflamatory diet and most importantly 4) by not fapping (just kidding)....

Seriously though, reducing meat intake, eating more soy based products (has estrogenic effect) and avoiding high glycemic foods (i.e. eat low carb) I believe will help.

Also, on the following site, where I havent checked it's sources, however it suggests that zinc and biotin assist with interfering with the buildup of dht.

http://visihow.com/Stop_Hair_Loss_by_Eating_These_18_DHT_Blocking_Foods

While I am not saying this will prevent baldness, I think it could potentially help. Ive been taking zinc for 20 years, rubbing zinc + b6 mixture (zix) on my head for 12years after dropping finasteride, eating a ton of eggs and recently started on biotin. Maybe that explains why I still have a good head of hair despite the fact that Ive been battling male pattern baldness for 20 years.

Some people obviously eat all these foods and dont go bald, so I question how much this has an effect, however anecdotally, it seems to be helping for me.

Thoughts?

 

[br1]

I have a comment, just anecdotal.

My grandfather, by the age of 21, was a NW4. By the age of 30, he was a NW7. He passed away at the age of 95.
Same with my dad. He is 70 now, so far no cancer.

 

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I have a comment, just anecdotal.

My grandfather, by the age of 21, was a NW4. By the age of 30, he was a NW7. He passed away at the age of 95.
Same with my dad. He is 70 now, so far no cancer.

Fair enough, it's just a correlation, not causation....

 

[Giiizmo]

I had a big WTF on my face as I read the article on those "DHT-blocking" foods and "[citation needed]" tags swirling before my eyes. Don't get me wrong, it's all healthy stuff, but out of the 18 items, only pumpkin seeds have an anecdotal effect on hair loss. For my part, I've used pumpkin seeds for 8-9 months before dropping it (a handful a day) because I believe I was getting finasteride-like side-effects (notably watery sperm and depression); the side-effects gradually subsided shortly after I stopped eating the seeds. For the record, I didn't notice anything regarding to my hair except possibly a reduction in scalp burning and itching.

As for the prostate cancer risks, the article - and indeed the study itself - fails to take into account two key components of baldness: circulating DHT and androgen receptor sensitivity. If DHT is indeed a major factor in prostate hyperplasia and neoplasia (and ultimately, cancer), you can go bald early and fast even if your body produces low amounts of DHT, provided the sensitivity (affinity) and/or the net population of your androgen receptors of your hair follicles is out of whack. Of course, there's no practical way to account for these two factors when conducting an epidemiological study but equating early baldness to a high risk of prostate cancer is, as the article mentions, "provocative", or one could even say far-fetched.

 

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I had a big WTF on my face as I read the article on those "DHT-blocking" foods and "[citation needed]" tags swirling before my eyes. Don't get me wrong, it's all healthy stuff, but out of the 18 items, only pumpkin seeds have an anecdotal effect on hair loss. For my part, I've used pumpkin seeds for 8-9 months before dropping it (a handful a day) because I believe I was getting finasteride-like side-effects (notably watery sperm and depression); the side-effects gradually subsided shortly after I stopped eating the seeds. For the record, I didn't notice anything regarding to my hair except possibly a reduction in scalp burning and itching.

As for the prostate cancer risks, the article - and indeed the study itself - fails to take into account two key components of baldness: circulating DHT and androgen receptor sensitivity. If DHT is indeed a major factor in prostate hyperplasia and neoplasia (and ultimately, cancer), you can go bald early and fast even if your body produces low amounts of DHT, provided the sensitivity (affinity) and/or the net population of your androgen receptors of your hair follicles is out of whack. Of course, there's no practical way to account for these two factors when conducting an epidemiological study but equating early baldness to a high risk of prostate cancer is, as the article mentions, "provocative", or one could even say far-fetched.

Thanks for the insight.

Interesting experience you had with pumpkin seeds, I had those sides on finasteride. Oddly enough i kind of enjoyed the watery semen, my cannon definitely had more range in bed