Are men with blonde and ginger hair are more prone to baldness ?

Ventures

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Are men with blonde and ginger hair more prone to baldness ?

I noticed interesting thing, it seems that men with blonde hair tend to have more problems with male pattern baldness than men with dark colored hair. Is this true ? There are even some sources on web which claim this: .....For unknown reasons, androgenic baldness is more common among blond men than dark-haired men and among Caucasians than among other races. .... http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/biology_of_baldness.htm


What, I mean, many young boys here who have aggressive hair loss have that color of hair, just remember FredTheBelgian and other posters. What they have in common is blonde hair, and they have origins in northern europe. Maybe that genes are recessive and more linked to balding genes, who knows. I've visited England and noticed a lot of young guys there have very progressive stage of hair loss. Maybe they have more sensitive hair, since those guy had zero body hair, and some of them even don't have thick facial hair.
 

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Hair color is determined by the amount of melanin pigment present in your hair. More pigment = darker hair, less pigment = lighter hair. There is no connection between an individual's level of hair melanin and that individual's proneness to male pattern baldness. The two traits are completely unrelated. The highest incidence of male pattern baldness in the world is among Greek and Macedonian men, who usually have very dark hair.
 

Agustin Araujo

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There's no scientific evidence that alopecia and hair color have anything related.
 

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I do not say balding and hair color genes are directly correlated. But it really seems that prevalence of premature balding and aggressive onset of Androgenetic Alopecia is dominat within population with blonde colored hair. Maybe it's just coincidence since this phenotype is more linked to some populations with genes and alleles which cause male pattern baldness.


Many guys here are from Denmark, UK, Norway, Sweden. For instance look at this story: https://www.*********talk.com/showthread.php?10792-17-Blonde-Bald.-Its-Brutal.
. And he looks like a boy, didn't develop facial hair. There are tons of similar cases on this forum and the other ones. Also, look at this topic: http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfmcatid=10&threadid=110840&enterthread=y&STARTPAGE=1

User hairloswelp also gave same comment:
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/textthread.cfm?catid=10&threadid=110840&filtmsgid=970408


I've never said people from Mediterranean and south europe genetic pool don't suffer from male pattern baldness. As I noticed, many guys from Greece, Italy, France also have balding problems, but it seems this guys develop baldness later in life and they have much more bodyhair. What I wanted to emphasize in this topic, many pure young boys in 17, 18 who struggle with significant hair loss, have same color of the hair in majority of cases.
 

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Actually, the highest % od male pattern baldness is amongst mediterranean men. Most of those men have dark skin&hair.. And I can concur.. In Italy, and particulary in Spain its obvious it is above average male pattern baldness( no age restriction)
 

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Maybe but Middle eastern and Mediterranean men do have significantly more body hair, facial hair which would indicate greater level of androgens and 5ard biolocations in their skin and scalp.

In my opinion, northern Europeans do have more androgen sensitive scalp hair. And considering that blonde and light hair colored phenotypes are more prevalent in this populations, they do have higher chances for Androgenetic Alopecia to occur. I would even say, that men from middle east, India, and South Mediterranean genetic pool and other areas who do suffer from male pattern baldness, did have genetic connections with northern European populations, since male pattern baldness is probably genetic trace typical for white race and maybe Neanderthals variant.
 

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male pattern baldness is common in men form the Nordic countries, but it has nothing to do with the fact they tend to have light hair colors. There is no connection at all between your hair color (the amount of pigment in your hair) and the level of sensitivity of your hair follicles to DHT.
 

Ventures

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So is there any reason why is male pattern baldness so prevalent among europeans (especially northern populations ) Is that just because northern europeans have genetically high sensitive scalp hair or ?

Why do northern european populations have sensitive hair follicles compared to african and middle-east men ?
 

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I am with you, but I think that the density and thickness of scalp hair, even its lenght, can have a role in this issue.

According to Bernstein Medical they say that in very general terms, the darker the hair colour the thicker the hair diameter. And lighter coloured hair although less pigmented tends to grow more densely than dark hair. I think the emphasis is on 'tends to be' because like most things there are exceptions to the rule. Not everyone fits the rule.
 

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I am with you, but I think that the density and thickness of scalp hair, even its lenght, can have a role in this issue.

Yeah I agree. I am not sure how the spread of a pattern works but im assuming DHT effects each follicle individually. So blonde hair having a smaller diameter and a higher hair count then dark hair makes me think they have more follicles to get effected and when one is attacked and is miniaturized the damage isnt as significant to someone with dark hair because their hair has a larger hair diameter.
 

Ventures

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I am with you, but I think that the density and thickness of scalp hair, even its length, can have a role in this issue.


True. Blonde colored people have very fine hair in diameter. I don't say if you have orange or light colored hair you must have male pattern baldness, but it seems that dark colored hair might have genes which are not associated with male pattern baldness. Look at Cristiano Ronaldo, ok there lot of balding celebrities with dark colored hair....

I know a lot of guys who have orange hair and struggle with hair loss, like prince Harry. I know a lot of guys with orange hair who started balding very young and they do not have very thick body hair or facial hair. Maybe orange hair color genes are more associated with certain alleles which mean higher probability to Androgenetic Alopecia. After all orange colored man are from northern european countries and we do know that male pattern baldness is very prevalent to these countries compared to middle east or arabic.
 

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I noticed on Tuesdays I tend to shed more hairs than other days. Could Tuesday cause hair loss to speed up maybe some kind of circadian rhythm related thing?
Some wise guy will call my argument stupid, but its the exact same thing really as these types of questions. Coincidences or what you notice really dont mean that much in the grand scheme of things.
To be fair in most issues where not much is figured out yet the speculation and theories come out to fill gaps in current knowledge much like religion.
 
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