ALternative besides minoxidil for front hairline.

ShaneA655

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what are some alternatives to use with hardly any side effects that work besides minoxidil. Have a full head of hair on scalp...just a little receding hairline.......any suggestions?
 

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ShaneA655 said:
what are some alternatives to use with hardly any side effects that work besides minoxidil. Have a full head of hair on scalp...just a little receding hairline.......any suggestions?

ROGAINE FOAM
 

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I think a reduced dose of Proxiphen (just enough for the hairline) would be good for that. Second choice would be Prox-N or one of the other copper-peptide products, or maybe topical spironolactone.
 

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ShaneA655 said:
it has minoxidil in it

What's the Problem with Minoxidil ?


BTW Proxyphen has minoxidil in it also and it costs $100 month vs $15 for foam and there is no evidence it works better ( or even as good as foam) .

I don't know how old you are but if you're young and really care about your hair I would also get on Propecia, the earlier you start the better and Propecia works much better at preventing hair loss than it does at regrowing hair.

Just my 2 cents



Proxiphen ( Prescription Product for Hair Loss Treatment )

Proxiphen contains minoxidil, as well as the prescription agents phenytoin and spironolactone ( a potent topically-effective antiandrogen ) SODs, copper peptides, TEMPO, PBN, etc.. Over a dozen active ingredients in all. It grows significantly more hair on more people than any other agent. Because it contains prescription agents, Proxiphen can only be dispensed on a physician's diagnosis of hair loss. Read the special instructions on how to obtain Prescription Proxiphen without coming to Houston. The cost is $100 for a one-month supply
 

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His point was that Rogaine Foam ONLY has minoxidil in it, as opposed to Proxiphen, which has a great many things in addition to minoxidil. It sounds like that's what he wants: something BESIDES minoxidil, because he's probably already using it.
 

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Is this Dr. Proctor stuff really that good? I've considered buying his non-minoxidil solutions, but I'm already paying a lot for Tricomin, so I'm a bit reluctant.
 

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Quantum Cat said:
Is this Dr. Proctor stuff really that good? I've considered buying his non-minoxidil solutions, but I'm already paying a lot for Tricomin, so I'm a bit reluctant.


Sure he has photos of THREE people under bad lighting on his website so it must be kick *** stuff , no ?

Think about it for a minute, tens of millions of men are losing their hair and have tried just about everything . If Dr Proctors stuff was as good as some (or one person ) claims then why isn't it even regarded as one of the big 3 ? Surely people have tried it and if it worked that good it would be well known.


I would do a bit of research before paying $100 for a bottle for Proxy and that's saying he writes the prescription for free and doesn't charge a consult fee.
 

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Quantum Cat said:
Is this Dr. Proctor stuff really that good? I've considered buying his non-minoxidil solutions, but I'm already paying a lot for Tricomin, so I'm a bit reluctant.

It depends on what you mean by "really that good". Non-prescription Prox-N has SODs like Tricomin, but the ones in Prox-N are more powerful. It also has other agents, too, like the growth stimulator NANO. Overall, I think Prox-N is very likely more effective than Tricomin, but obviously there are no miracle cures.
 

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Sure he has photos of THREE people under bad lighting on his website so it must be kick *** stuff , no ?

Damn straight! He runs a medical clinic, not a photographer's studio. Even if you don't like his "bad lighting", those photos are still impressive.

HT55 said:
Think about it for a minute, tens of millions of men are losing their hair and have tried just about everything . If Dr Proctors stuff was as good as some (or one person ) claims then why isn't it even regarded as one of the big 3 ? Surely people have tried it and if it worked that good it would be well known.

I've already addressed that more than once: he doesn't promote his products very much, and (even worse) they are expensive, and one of them requires a prescription. A shocking number of balding people have never even HEARD of him, or his products.

As for whether or not people have tried it, I offered to show you that list of 12 enthusiastic posts from people on alt.baldspot who are Proxiphen users, but you didn't respond. Why not? Cat got your tongue? :)

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I would do a bit of research before paying $100 for a bottle for Proxy and that's saying he writes the prescription for free and doesn't charge a consult fee.

I suggest the very same thing to you: DO SOME RESEARCH, and don't just shoot your mouth off about things you don't know anything about.
 

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I tried Dr Proctor's products (aka Bryan???), none of them worked for the hairline.

minoxidil is your best bet, hair transplant is probably only the currently available solution.

But there are always new products appearing.
 

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Bryan said:
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As for whether or not people have tried it, I offered to show you that list of 12 enthusiastic posts from people on alt.baldspot who are Proxiphen users, but you didn't respond. Why not? Cat got your tongue? :)

Wow you must be right, are you serious there are 12 WHOLE POSTS about Proxyphen , lol


I mean it did WONDERS turining your 3 inch diameter bald spot into 2 7/8 after spending $800 bucks and wasting 2 years, lol

BTW just because you didn't bald further means NOTHING as you were already quite bald and not every progresses to Norwood 7.
 

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HT55 said:
Bryan said:
As for whether or not people have tried it, I offered to show you that list of 12 enthusiastic posts from people on alt.baldspot who are Proxiphen users, but you didn't respond. Why not? Cat got your tongue? :)
Wow you must be right, are you serious there are 12 WHOLE POSTS about Proxyphen , lol

You seem to have problems with reading comprehension. I didn't say that there are only "12 whole posts about Proxiphen" on alt.baldspot (and note the correct spelling of "Proxiphen"), I said that I had saved 12 enthusiastic posts from Proxiphen users on alt.baldspot. They are all rave reviews of Proxiphen.

If you only want to talk about ANY KIND OF POSTS AT ALL about Proxiphen on alt.baldspot, there are probably hundreds of them. Maybe thousands. Most of them come from people who are asking things like what's in it, how much does it cost, how can they obtain it, what are the side effects, how well does it work, etc. etc.

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I mean it did WONDERS turining your 3 inch diameter bald spot into 2 7/8 after spending $800 bucks and wasting 2 years, lol

I've already told you at least once that I didn't use Proxiphen during the two years covered by those before-and-after pics. I used Prox-N. Can you READ?

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BTW just because you didn't bald further means NOTHING as you were already quite bald and not every progresses to Norwood 7.

Yes, but you're overlooking and avoiding one very important point: I didn't just stay the same for two years, I actually IMPROVED a bit. That shows that I didn't simply reach a stable point where my balding didn't get any worse for that period of time, it shows a clearly beneficial effect of Prox-N on my hair. And by the way, Prox-N back in those days wasn't as effective as it is now. Today's Prox-N contains (among other things) copper-peptides and PBN and/or TEMPO/TEMPOL.
 

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The medicine that I am seriously thinking to add to my regimen(alternative to minoxidi) as growth stimulant is apple poly(apple procyanidins). But I will make my homework on it before I give it a try.

Bryan,
What do you think of apple procyanidins?
Do you have any studies for AP?
 

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billythekid said:
I tried Dr Proctor's products (aka Bryan???), none of them worked for the hairline.

minoxidil is your best bet, hair transplant is probably only the currently available solution.

But there are always new products appearing.

By "products" im assuming you used prox-n, proxiphen, and the shampoo/conditioner?
 

Quantum Cat

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can I ask a question: does Prox-N have NANO in?

If so, I can buy that alone and not bother with the Nano shampoo
 

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neis said:
Bryan,
What do you think of apple procyanidins?
Do you have any studies for AP?

They apparently do work, at least to some extent. I have an old study (buried deep in my Study Stack) which tested them. They seemed to work about as well as minoxidil in their experimental setup, if I recall correctly. It's been years since I read it, so I have to trust my memory on all that.
 

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Quantum Cat said:
can I ask a question: does Prox-N have NANO in?

Sure, both Prox-N and Proxiphen contain NANO.

Quantum Cat said:
If so, I can buy that alone and not bother with the Nano shampoo

Sure. Dr. Proctor merely devised NANO shampoo as a way for users to be able to get some additional NANO into their scalps (above and beyond what you can get with Prox-N or Proxiphen), but there's no Federal law that says that you HAVE to do that! :)
 

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Bryan said:
HT55 said:
Bryan said:
As for whether or not people have tried it, I offered to show you that list of 12 enthusiastic posts from people on alt.baldspot who are Proxiphen users, but you didn't respond. Why not? Cat got your tongue? :)
Wow you must be right, are you serious there are 12 WHOLE POSTS about Proxyphen , lol

You seem to have problems with reading comprehension. I didn't say that there are only "12 whole posts about Proxiphen" on alt.baldspot (and note the correct spelling of "Proxiphen"), I said that I had saved 12 enthusiastic posts from Proxiphen users on alt.baldspot. They are all rave reviews of Proxiphen.

NOW THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING , lol

12 WHOLE PEOPLE are raving about a product, You are raving also and 99.9999% of balding men who see you pics (BTW how come you never post them) are not going to see your results as a success.
 
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