Alright, im determined to stick to it..

[Trilidon]

I can't take Propecia because of sides
I didn't stay on minoxidil that long before, partly because I was to lazy, partly because I just wasn't thinking it would work.

I want to maintain the hair I have, I dont care to much about regrowth.

minoxidil seems like the way to go for me, I was just wondering, can this maintain haircount pretty well? I'm hoping for like at least 10 years if it actually works on me. I need some other cheap products(not spironolactone, smells to damn much.)

 

[Stingray]

Unfortunately, minoxidil isn't a great maintenance tool. You'll NEED a DHT inhibitor to stop the underlying causes of losing your hair. There's no way around it.

 

[Trilidon]

so im kind of fucked

 

[HairlossTalk]

Why would you say that?

People seem to forget that finasteride (Propecia) is obtainable by very cheap methods.

People also seem to forget that Propecia works to literally maintain EVERY SINGLE HAIR on a person's head *OR* increase that hair count (in roughly 40% of people!) by using Propecia and Propecia alone.

If anything, I think everyone should start with propecia+nizoral by itself and give it 2 years. You're likely about to buy yourself 5-8 years of total hair maintenance with zero daily regimen inconvenience and little or no cost... and you can always add Mionxidil later if you need to.

You actually dont seem F'd. You seem to be in a great position.

HairLossTalk.com

 

[Trilidon]

I still have limp peepee from Propecia dude =P im not going on it again

you must have missed it in my original post =P happens.

 

[ShedMaster]

I still have limp peepee from Propecia dude =P im not going on it again

you must have missed it in my original post =P happens.

How much time did you give the propecia before stopping?

 

[Trilidon]

Not long under a month, Propecia is not an option for me anymore.

 

[Mr T.]

Hey Trilidon,

I've read through some of your old posts, and I'm sorry to hear what you're going through. Have your erections improved any? Have you learned anything about how to reverse what's happened to you???

Reading stories like yours and Hair McNair's have pretty much turned me off to Propecia. Of course, some assholes on this site will say I have "no balls" for not at least trying it, but look at what happened to you. I think any of these guys who know about stories like yours who tell newbies like me to "just try Propecia" are f*****g ignorant assholes. That's ok if they want to use the sh*t themselves and risk it, but encouraging other people to do the same is just WRONG, especially when not giving them all the facts. I don't know what's wrong with these people.

I'm going to use either Revivogen or Crinagen. Probably Revivogen after talking to HairLossTalk.com, even though Crinagen is cheaper. You would probably benefit from one of these. You could also use topical spironolactone. Look at HairLossTalk.com, he had to discontinue Propecia, and he's maintaining pretty well with a Revivogen/spironolactone regimen.

Good luck, and keep us updated mate.

Cheers.

Jeremy

 

[HairlossTalk]

Trill -

At the risk of sounding redundant (again). Side effects are bad during the first month for some people. They *go away* after that for 9999999999% of people.

You should have tried to stick it out. It is well known that libido goes dead for a week or two during the first couple months on propecia. We all went through it. I didnt think about sex for a week straight. It was kind of nice being able to focus on other things.

This is all part of the pendulum fluctuation.

When guys criticize people for saying "Propecia made my penis go limp!" one of the very things they point out about those people is: "I bet you werent on it long enough". They're usually right.

Libido goes dead with propecia in some guys .. but it rebounds. You have to stay on it longer than a month to see that rebound.

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[Mr T.]

HairLossTalk.com, I don't think that you read Tril's posts. He's been off of Propecia for more than a year, and his pecker still won't work. He's one of these blokes Propecia really f*cked up the ***. He's not one of these crybabies who is afraid of Propecia because he had limp dick for a week - he's been seriously impotent for a long time. Go back and read some of his old posts and Hair McNair's posts.

I personally will never touch Propecia. Flame away everyone, but if there's even a 0.01% chance of winding up like Tril or McNair and being unable to even get it up for the missus, you can count me out of your little Propecia boys' club. I have enough problems between my hairloss and other stuff to have to worry about my wang not working.

Cheers.

Jeremy

 

[Trilidon]

I really was not trying to get into this discussion..

But ya, its been a while since ive been off Propecia, my test lvl was around 600 when I got it tested, Dr. Shippen wrote something about 800-1200 being the norm for someone my age. I never got any tests done before Propecia so I can't say with certainty that it affected me in that way, but I wouldn't leave it out of the equation when trying to figure out what is wrong with me.

I'm sure Propecia works fine after a few months for those that get minor side effects, but this was not minor in any way shape or form.

Its been about...a year and a half, things haven't gotten any better, and my insurance ran out a couple of months ago since I didn't go to school last semester. I have a bit of gyno on my left nipple that has gotten worse over the past couple of months. That might say something about whats up with me, but I dont want to go messing around with myself any further without proper testing and what not.

Either way, I do believe propecia caused this, but I also believe it is pretty safe in most men most of time i am just a rare exception I suppose, who knows why.

Back on Topic =P? Revivogen sounds like an option, whats the difference between it and crinagen? Anyone besides HairLossTalk.com on revivogen? Thoughts?

 

[Mr T.]

Revivogen and Crinagen both have the same ingredients nowadays, but according to HairLossTalk.com and Bryan Shelton, Revivogen is more reputable. The Crinagen people copied the Revivogen formula. Bryan Shelton says he doesn't trust Crinagen because the ingredients might not be in the right amounts. Having read through some of his old posts, Bryan sounds like he knows his sh*t, so I'm willing to dish out a few more bucks each month for the peace of mind. I just ordered some Revivogen, and I'm looking forward to using it with Dr. Lee's spironolactone.

Cheers.

Jeremy

 

[HairlossTalk]

its been a while since ive been off Propecia, my test lvl was around 600 when I got it tested, Dr. Shippen wrote something about 800-1200 being the norm for someone my age.

Weird. Yeah. Cuz Propecia doesn't cause low Testosterone Levels. It causes High testosterone levels that result in High Estrogen levels. Low Testosterone is a problem found in a large majority of men who have libido and erection problems completely aside from Propecia. I have a tough enough time convincing my doctor that my high estrogen was Propecia related when I have mountains of proof... you'd have an even harder time proving that low testosterone was related. Even to me. Sorry it happened though.

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[Trilidon]

ya, I dont know how I can explain my little axis thing being offset and me being slightly hypogonandal because of it. Estrogen must play a part in this though.


Blah I dunno. Its gotten to the point im feeling kind of hopeless

 

[HairlossTalk]

have you tried the GNC mega mans?

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[Guest]

HairLossTalk.com, I don't think that you read Tril's posts. He's been off of Propecia for more than a year, and his pecker still won't work. He's one of these blokes Propecia really f*cked up the ***. He's not one of these crybabies who is afraid of Propecia because he had limp dick for a week - he's been seriously impotent for a long time. Go back and read some of his old posts and Hair McNair's posts.

I personally will never touch Propecia. Flame away everyone, but if there's even a 0.01% chance of winding up like Tril or McNair and being unable to even get it up for the missus, you can count me out of your little Propecia boys' club. I have enough problems between my hairloss and other stuff to have to worry about my wang not working.

Cheers.

Jeremy

We are not going to flame you and you are like brokern record. I don't think any responable person here would suggest that no one will get side effects from propecia. It is a risk/reward decision that folks are free to make.

What is not appropriate is for folks to distort the risk and impact of side effects based on postings here or elsewhere. In other words, they must be taken with a grain of salt since these indicidents are not verifiable.

Unlike the long term FDA studies of finasteride.

So, it is fine for you to refrain from using propecia. It is not fine for you to flame on about the end of the world for users of propecia. Many of us are doing just fine on the drug.

 

[Trilidon]

Revivogen doesn't look to hopeful ;\

How bad is the smell/stains?


Would it really be that hard to maintain just using minoxidil, maybe spironolactone at night?

 

[Stinger122]

Revivogen doesn't look to hopeful ;\

How bad is the smell/stains?

Im on revivogen, its ok, slowed down my hair loss.. I dont think it will do much on its own to be honest.

I think a good combo would be what HairLossTalk.com uses spironolactone/Revivogen. I plan on going off it soon anyway, im using minoxidil 5%, Folligen(Heard good stuff bout this, I hear both together are excellent) and im going to order NANO shampoo, this combo should be enough really to maintain/regrow some hair.

Hope this helps!

 

[Trilidon]

I might just stick with minoxidil and try out 6-bap, I see tons of people praising it on other boards, who knows.

Can't hurt, and it seems more realistic then fluridil imo

 

[HairlossTalk]

I might just stick with minoxidil and try out 6-bap, I see tons of people praising it on other boards, who knows.

Same sh*t different month.

6 months from now nobody will remember it or be using it. These things pop up once every 6 months, cause a ruckus, then die slow painful deaths.

Every one of those people will be back on Finasteride/minoxidil and the treatments we suggest by March 2004.

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