I hadn't even realised tbh. 2005, damn.Damn you're an OG I see.
How are you holding up all those years?
If you already endured 5 years of DHT inhibition and stopped for a while you can always try to tritate rly slowly. Many cases of people who had to stop and came back doing 2-3x duta week or low dose finasteride per week without sides. Or try topicals. Sadly DHT inhibition is important. But if your alopecia is not super aggressive there's some hopium left with needling+minoxidil I guessI hadn't even realised tbh. 2005, damn.
Long story short used fina and duta to begin with and they worked. Got subtle, insidious side effects though and stopped after about 5 years.
Have since flip-flopped between all the usual topical stuff while gradually losing the battle.
These dermaroller stories give some hopium though.
same, only start seeing results with consistent 1x weekWell, I'm happy to report that I'm FINALLY seeing some results. Definite thickening on the top of my head now. Thickening all around. I increased my microneedling from once / 2 weeks to once per week. It's been 2 months now, and now I'm seeing the difference. Hopefully it keeps improving.
Yes, both minoxidil plus needling. Needling once a week, minoxidil every night except for the night of needling.You're doing minoxidil + needling?
Here's another guy saying he has good results with needling only
I think it has to do with the fact that our at-home needling is not accurate at all. Follica does it accurately, so they only have to punch your scalp once every 2 weeks. We're just eyeballing it.. so to catch up to Follica's results, it has to be done a little more frequently... once per week.but Follicla tested this extensively and concluded once every 14 days is better so idk. I believe "standarized" science for every human is retarded anyway. Start your own clinical trial on yourself and be flexible to adapt is the way. Every human reacts different.
Maybe,hair growing takes place only through the healing proccess?As someone said,everyone is different.There are reports of people doing it every day and they experienced results,but they went as deep as .5mm. Others buchered their scalps, but they did it once a week and they went deeper.Maybe the time period is the sweet spot and not the depth of the wound?I think it has to do with the fact that our at-home needling is not accurate at all. Follica does it accurately, so they only have to punch your scalp once every 2 weeks. We're just eyeballing it.. so to catch up to Follica's results, it has to be done a little more frequently... once per week.
Tons of regrowth of the hair you shedded yep makes sense lol.That should be Follica level density if you're using the fastest setting. I use a D2 for a half hour(D2 doesn't go as fast as M8 so more time is required for the same number of needle strikes), and it leaves significant erythema and slight pinpoint bleeding. I use a depth of 1mm because I have hair in the way. After the first couple times doing this I shed like never before and soon after I had tons of regrowth. I've always suspected that the Dr Pens have trouble reaching the set depth as they have less power than the D2 yet they oscillate much faster. At those speeds I don't think it's actually penetrating to the depth that it should. At 1.5mm you might only being 1mm, so perhaps you're only now following the Follica protocol. This is why I stick with the D2 despite the relatively low speed. I know exactly how many needle strikes I'm getting and at what depth.
I don't think the time it takes to heal is a good indicator. It doesn't take long for my scalp to feel fine after these mega sessions. 24 hours or so and all the redness and pain is gone. The wound healing happens beneath the surface, week where you can't see it. Ideally you want to heal faster.
But then again how about the people who are not responders to min.Would they respond to min and needling together?Thats a big question mark.If only we could convince a commercial research outfit to spend years figuring out the most effective depth & timing & density . . . .