harold
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Hey all,
having read this I think maybe it should be in the personal stories section, there is a lot of bg info that you may want to skip. Anyway just wanted to share my limited but interesting experiences ith topical dutasteride and I think it helps to know how I 've reacted to other stuff in the past. Hope it helps someone.
I quit quartered proscar about August last year due to sexual sides that had been going on way too long really. I decided to go for fluridil as the most promising in a very small lineup of products that might work as purely topical antiandrogens. Was scared about a big shed but eager to have a more normal sex drive. After quitting I was surprised how little effect it seemed to have in the libido department. At the same time fluridil seemed to be keeping the hair on my head. It was only after one to two months that things started to pick up sexually and I began to remember all that I had been missing the last few years on finasteride. However by about the end of the second month it seemed like hair loss was beginning to keep pace with th increase in sexual appetite. Being a little OCD (a not uncommon thing on this site it seems) I decided to comb my hair over the sink every night and count how many hairs fell out, with an eye to the "50-100 every day" rule of thumb and bearing in mind that I must be losing more at other times during the day. My hair being longish its pretty easy to see the fallout. Anyway for three straight nights I managed to comb out around 60 hairs. It seemed like if I kept combing I could get more but by that stage I just didnt want to know. But it was undeniable that I was shedding. I didnt want to go running back to finasteride because it is pretty hard to go back from wanting and enjoying sex again just as it was pretty damn hard to go from having pretty solid hair to shedding and the associated freakout. What to f%^ing do? Sex or hair? Seems it comes down to this question for too many of us.
Anyway I still had a couple of caps of dutasteride around from a few years back when I had jumped on the drug for 4-8 months or so. 0.25 mg EOD. Or 0.5mg every 4 days. Oral dutasteride was an absolute KO for my libido. I could watch p**rn without any desire to masturbate like some kind of fricking Vulcan and errections were extremely weak if present at all. Which made for some embarassing moments. There was more than a little gyno creeping in also. But my hair in this period was awesome. It was thick, I could abuse it and it wouldnt fall out. In short it was like woman-hair.
At any rate, somewhat desperate and frantic, I decided to empty a cap into a cap into a glass of vodka and chucked the crap on my head. The next night I managed to comb out 12 hairs from my head. Seemed like a pretty dramatic effect. I kept it up for a week but sides forced me to try exposing it to the scalp for only 30 mins. From haircounts it seemed a little less effective but its hard to tell whats doing what when you only stopped oral finasteride a couple of months ago. Still that somewhat dramatic drop in shedding (happening after only 12-20 or so hours made me pretty suspicous but I was pretty thorough about it all) seemed a clear sign that it was working. As was the pain in my nuts and chest.
Anyway I chucked it in cos it seemed so impractical to apply this stuff wait 30 mins, count how many hairs were falling out and it just wasn't that practical when sleeping over somewhere else. So went back to finasteride for awhile. All libido went away pretty much fom the getgo but at least I didnt have to wonder whether the stuff was maintaining my hair anymore.
Round Xmas I chucked the finasteride and went for a topical approach with various things including some topical finasteride. Libido began to creep back after a couple of weeks but this time there seemed to be exponentially more hassle with stuff gumming up my hair, time taken to apply, carrying all this stuff around while holidaying with friends where there was little privacy. And a few days ago it seemed undeniablre that I was starting to shed again.
So the other day I reached for some more dutasteride I had ordered last year. Once again the vehicle was pretty much vodka. 0.25mg dutasteride/70ml. So about a 0.00035 - 0.0004% solution. Not much at all you would think.
Two nights in a row I have applied this to my scalp and today I feel like I have been punched in the balls.
Maybe its just me. i am amazed that some people can talk about taking 2.5 mg of dutasteride every day let alone 0.5mg and have any kind of sex life. Others around here seem positively offended and or angered when someone complains of having any kind of sides from 5ar inhibition. As if its contagious or something.
If I can reach some kind of dosage where the manly bits stay reasonably manly and the scalp stays reasonably hairy I will be happy. Due to the resilience of this stuff I would not feel that freaked about missing a day hear ot there or only having it on for a little while before everyone decides to go swimming and all those other situations that crop up. Conversely there is the though that due to the long half life, the sides could take a while to fully manifest and then even quitting cold might leave me kinda screwed for awhile.
I'm not rich by any means but I've even been looking at the RU threads and seriously considering jumping on that ship. Peace of mind is a avluable commodity and while many can lose hair gracefully it doesn't seem to be something I can do.
For the moment however I'm gonna mess around with topical dutasteride, (along with some topical antioxidants and so forth) and see if by changing dosage, dosing frequency and skin contact time i can find something that works for me.
So for those who wonder whether topical dutasteride can actually penetrate the scalp I would have to say all too easily, at least for me, as my testicles can unhappily attest. Can it stop hairloss? I think so going by the sudden decline in fallout I experienced earlier. (Its not a trichogram I know but i think its a little more to go on then "Its been 40 minutes and my hair definitely looks thicker!"). Can it stop hairloss while reducing the sides I might get from internal use? Dont know yet. I'm gonna try and find out.
hh
having read this I think maybe it should be in the personal stories section, there is a lot of bg info that you may want to skip. Anyway just wanted to share my limited but interesting experiences ith topical dutasteride and I think it helps to know how I 've reacted to other stuff in the past. Hope it helps someone.
I quit quartered proscar about August last year due to sexual sides that had been going on way too long really. I decided to go for fluridil as the most promising in a very small lineup of products that might work as purely topical antiandrogens. Was scared about a big shed but eager to have a more normal sex drive. After quitting I was surprised how little effect it seemed to have in the libido department. At the same time fluridil seemed to be keeping the hair on my head. It was only after one to two months that things started to pick up sexually and I began to remember all that I had been missing the last few years on finasteride. However by about the end of the second month it seemed like hair loss was beginning to keep pace with th increase in sexual appetite. Being a little OCD (a not uncommon thing on this site it seems) I decided to comb my hair over the sink every night and count how many hairs fell out, with an eye to the "50-100 every day" rule of thumb and bearing in mind that I must be losing more at other times during the day. My hair being longish its pretty easy to see the fallout. Anyway for three straight nights I managed to comb out around 60 hairs. It seemed like if I kept combing I could get more but by that stage I just didnt want to know. But it was undeniable that I was shedding. I didnt want to go running back to finasteride because it is pretty hard to go back from wanting and enjoying sex again just as it was pretty damn hard to go from having pretty solid hair to shedding and the associated freakout. What to f%^ing do? Sex or hair? Seems it comes down to this question for too many of us.
Anyway I still had a couple of caps of dutasteride around from a few years back when I had jumped on the drug for 4-8 months or so. 0.25 mg EOD. Or 0.5mg every 4 days. Oral dutasteride was an absolute KO for my libido. I could watch p**rn without any desire to masturbate like some kind of fricking Vulcan and errections were extremely weak if present at all. Which made for some embarassing moments. There was more than a little gyno creeping in also. But my hair in this period was awesome. It was thick, I could abuse it and it wouldnt fall out. In short it was like woman-hair.
At any rate, somewhat desperate and frantic, I decided to empty a cap into a cap into a glass of vodka and chucked the crap on my head. The next night I managed to comb out 12 hairs from my head. Seemed like a pretty dramatic effect. I kept it up for a week but sides forced me to try exposing it to the scalp for only 30 mins. From haircounts it seemed a little less effective but its hard to tell whats doing what when you only stopped oral finasteride a couple of months ago. Still that somewhat dramatic drop in shedding (happening after only 12-20 or so hours made me pretty suspicous but I was pretty thorough about it all) seemed a clear sign that it was working. As was the pain in my nuts and chest.
Anyway I chucked it in cos it seemed so impractical to apply this stuff wait 30 mins, count how many hairs were falling out and it just wasn't that practical when sleeping over somewhere else. So went back to finasteride for awhile. All libido went away pretty much fom the getgo but at least I didnt have to wonder whether the stuff was maintaining my hair anymore.
Round Xmas I chucked the finasteride and went for a topical approach with various things including some topical finasteride. Libido began to creep back after a couple of weeks but this time there seemed to be exponentially more hassle with stuff gumming up my hair, time taken to apply, carrying all this stuff around while holidaying with friends where there was little privacy. And a few days ago it seemed undeniablre that I was starting to shed again.
So the other day I reached for some more dutasteride I had ordered last year. Once again the vehicle was pretty much vodka. 0.25mg dutasteride/70ml. So about a 0.00035 - 0.0004% solution. Not much at all you would think.
Two nights in a row I have applied this to my scalp and today I feel like I have been punched in the balls.
Maybe its just me. i am amazed that some people can talk about taking 2.5 mg of dutasteride every day let alone 0.5mg and have any kind of sex life. Others around here seem positively offended and or angered when someone complains of having any kind of sides from 5ar inhibition. As if its contagious or something.
If I can reach some kind of dosage where the manly bits stay reasonably manly and the scalp stays reasonably hairy I will be happy. Due to the resilience of this stuff I would not feel that freaked about missing a day hear ot there or only having it on for a little while before everyone decides to go swimming and all those other situations that crop up. Conversely there is the though that due to the long half life, the sides could take a while to fully manifest and then even quitting cold might leave me kinda screwed for awhile.
I'm not rich by any means but I've even been looking at the RU threads and seriously considering jumping on that ship. Peace of mind is a avluable commodity and while many can lose hair gracefully it doesn't seem to be something I can do.
For the moment however I'm gonna mess around with topical dutasteride, (along with some topical antioxidants and so forth) and see if by changing dosage, dosing frequency and skin contact time i can find something that works for me.
So for those who wonder whether topical dutasteride can actually penetrate the scalp I would have to say all too easily, at least for me, as my testicles can unhappily attest. Can it stop hairloss? I think so going by the sudden decline in fallout I experienced earlier. (Its not a trichogram I know but i think its a little more to go on then "Its been 40 minutes and my hair definitely looks thicker!"). Can it stop hairloss while reducing the sides I might get from internal use? Dont know yet. I'm gonna try and find out.
hh
