this might be ridiculous

[Tommy2tyme]

Just a question, not trying to make assumptions or spread any negative finasteride talk.
Anyways since starting finasteride about 7 months ago (I am 20 years old) I have noticed that my eye sight has completely gone to sh*t. I had my eyes check 2 years ago and had 20/20. Never ever worried about them, but just over the last 4 months or so they have gone to sh*t. This is most likely due to circumstances unrelated to finasteride, but I was just wondering if anyone else had any sort of similar experiences.

 

[kamui]

Hmmm don't know..can it be from the high levels of estrogen? I heard high levels of estrogen causes us to age quicker?

 

[Gilgamesh]

it's from the finasteride

just trust me on this

not to say that you should get off it: horseshoe status is a death sentence

 

[Cornholio]

Hmmm don't know..can it be from the high levels of estrogen? I heard high levels of estrogen causes us to age quicker?

A lot of people (women) have high estrogen, live longer than men, and are generally healthier doing it... (In the average elderly couple it is the women that cares for the frail failing husband... He dies, and then she lives 6 more years).

 

[Gilgamesh]

cornholio: that is so oversimplistic and fails to realize how tightly regulated hormones and the endocrine system are

although lack of androgens probably does contribute to a longer lifespan in females, removing them from males via a synthetic process in blunt terms 'fucks sh*t up'

your body is not a car

 

[rapidfrontal]

it's from the finasteride

just trust me on this

not to say that you should get off it: horseshoe status is a death sentence

Wow, this is a pretty strong statement. You must have pretty strong proof, no?

 

[Gilgamesh]

Wow, this is a pretty strong statement. You must have pretty strong proof, no?

study the nature of somatoform disorder: on one hand it's an exceptionally rare manifestation of mental illness (which itself is not that common: albeit moreso on this forum compared to a normative population)

even granting the presence of such: it almost always invariably follows the pattern of imagining things that were feared or expected prior. We studied some cases in my adult psychopathology course regarding this. People will generally (if they're imaging it) say they have a limp penis or low libido or something else they've heard on the forum.

to imagine an occular problem when one never hears of this would be quite exceptional. it still amazes me how people think every side effect is in people's heads. perhaps 1 out of 10 self reports.. i'd have to look up the prevelance and factor in for comorbid mood disorders accompanying male pattern baldness (as well as the fact most of us have shitty insulin resistance which is also over-represented in such)

also: i remember someone on alt.baldspot years ago describing this same symptom which saw a resolution upon discontinuation of finasteride

as well as various people on the yahoo finasteride side effects group

but that's not even nearly scientific

 

[VWdude]

once again... any real doctors in here? whats next? talk about how dht levels can increase our body temperature by altering the functions of the hypothalamus? Anyone else care to bring out their text books from grade 10 science?

 

[VWdude]

I like reading... but when it comes to MBP I know where to draw the line... i'm not obsessed with it nor do I let it control my life... im sure that there are 100000 different websites about male pattern baldness and many different theories about it... but I really couldn't care less I have better things to do then to research all the different findings on hairloss.

 

[Gilgamesh]

I like reading... but when it comes to MBP I know where to draw the line... i'm not obsessed with it nor do I let it control my life... im sure that there are 100000 different websites about male pattern baldness and many different theories about it... but I really couldn't care less I have better things to do then to research all the different findings on hairloss.

I envy you. I'd love to have the same attitude and pop a finasteride everyday and move along with my day.

 

[hairschmair]

Wow, this is a pretty strong statement. You must have pretty strong proof, no?

to imagine an occular problem when one never hears of this would be quite exceptional. it still amazes me how people think every side effect is in people's heads. perhaps 1 out of 10 self reports.. i'd have to look up the prevelance and factor in for comorbid mood disorders accompanying male pattern baldness (as well as the fact most of us have shitty insulin resistance which is also over-represented in such)

You sound like a really smart guy, so you probably realize that the above statement does not cover the whole story. A symptom being real/physical (as opposed to psychological) does not automatically translate to finasteride being the cause. A symptom can be real AND unrelated to finasteride.

 

[oni]

Gilgamesh do you eat fish ?
Gilgamesh do you have any filling's in your mouth that are not white?

 

[Gilgamesh]

Yeah I'm pretty worried about mercury poisoning to be honest
it gets more scary the more stuff you read

thankfully I dont have amalgam (sp?) fillings: I do eat salmon though (but I get the expensive organic sh*t)..f*cking expensive

also: why do you ask? cuz Im OCD and autistic-ish?

 

[oni]

You just seem to worry a lot. and don't forget all them PCB's in your fish lol! it's really not worth worrying about. I don't think living your life in cotton wool is any good for you because one day you might get anaphylactic shock from all that cotton wool!

 

[Gilgamesh]

yeah oni

see to me, being a horseshoe is death: everytime I even begin to accept my ultimate fate as a horseshoe I have 'THE EXPERIENCE'

the experience is this: I will walk around downtown or in a public place and see the norwoods and horseshoes walking around with the sun beaming on their shiny norwood heads

at that point: I go back to stage 1 and become very desperate like a madman

in this madness I have put the responsibility of finding some magical cure to hairloss in my own hands: it's like a man dying of AIDS who feels he's running out of time

everytime I want to do something other than research hairloss I realize how fibrosis is setting in on my scalp killing hope one second at a time. i literally spend 10 hours a day researching medical stuff. it's an addiction: i forget to eat because I'm knee deep in abstracts

ITS A RACE AGAINST TIME.

how foolish of me to think there's anything I can do or figure out. but i guess it helps me feel like i'm doing something when death is knocking on my door

i can't be one of those norwoods with the sun glistening on my bald scalp

I cant

 

[oni]

Gilgamesh do you think stressing yourself will help. I do understand about the problem :lol: but it's a case of doing what you can and getting on with your life. If you start fixating on this one point in your life you miss all the opportunity around you and before you know it life has passed you by..........

 

[Guest]

I seriously suggest you see a doctor or a psychiatrist Gilgamesh.

Your postings seem somewhat manic and I don't think they are helping others veru much.

You need to sort your mind out before your hair - otherwise you will end up losing both.

 

[VWdude]

Just chill man! you'll be alright! I know battling the horseshoe can be tough... but you can do it!

 

[The Gardener]

Have a glass of red wine and do three Norwood Chants, and call me in the morning.

 

[Tommy2tyme]

so basically, no one else has experienced anything close to this. Therefore, I will make the assumption it is unrelated to finasteride.