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Discussion in 'Shedding Shedding Shedding' started by HairCoverage, May 23, 2006.

  1. HairCoverage

    HairCoverage Member

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    For the past several months, I've been losing probably 500 hairs a day.

    Could this be normal hair loss? Can normal hair loss be that much? Or is it pure shedding.

    I mean just this morning.. I rubbed my hair, filled a white page with it. Counted it, came to 115, thats just in the morning.

    And my hair's gone really thin all over.. Big difference from last year.. is it a shed or just rapid hair loss, losing so much hair every day.
     
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    -cj- Experienced Member

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    500? I'm sure that's an exaggeration.

    How oftern do you wash your hair?

    How long have you been using minoxidil?
     
  3. HairCoverage

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    If Im exaggerating at 500.. then 350 would be the minimum truth to it. Thats how bad I got it.

    Everytime I put my hand through my wet hair.. I get at least 15 hairs at a time, and that goes on for about 25 times till I start seeing 3 or 4 hairs. (No exaggeration there)

    The shedded hair: Majority are long, bit thin but normal size, with the sprinkled little vellus, crappy sprouts.

    I wash my hair probably 4 to 5 times a week.

    minoxidil use: 10 months ago, used for 1.5 months then quit. (only on temples, brought them back in 1.5 months)
    minoxidil use: Started 1 month ago on temples again (temples are worse now)

    I also used Propecia 3 to 4 weeks ago, took it for 8 to 9 days then stopped completely. Backed out. Won't go back on it, rather lose my hair finding a natural source. Yes thats how Anti-Propecia i am.
     
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    westcovinajoe Established Member

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    Well perhaps it has something to do with starting and stopping the Propecia.

    I go through a shed here and there using Min and finasteride, but I have not lost anything close to 350 hairs.

    I lose about 50 on a bad day.

    Add Nizoral if you don't use it already.

    Good luck,
    Joe
     
  5. -cj-

    -cj- Experienced Member

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    Wow, I really wish I had an answer for you man. That's a huge amount of hair, almost sounds like a Telogen Effluvium attack. You been through a lot of stress or did something crazy happen?
     
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    bodysnatcher Established Member

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    Whats the system for counting how many hairs you loose a day?

    Surely you couldn't possibly cound or even be aware of more than 10% of the hair that fall out.
     
  7. HairCoverage

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    I cant count a days worth.. just 1 session of rubbing worth... morning i counted like 115.

    And its been happening for months now, even before the Propecia stop/start though its getting worse now.

    My hair in less than a hair.. has gone from slight receding hairlines with good density to no density at all.

    Right now.. around 60 to 80 hairs fell on my desk when i rubbed my head.

    Im using Nizoral! Started Nizoral with minoxidil 1 month ago.

    Please explain Telogen Effluvium?
     
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    Barry_Blue Established Member

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    If what you're saying is true it doesn't even sound to me like male pattern baldness, even taking into account a minoxidil shed.

    Telogen Effluvium is one possibility but why don't you just try Propecia and stick with it for a bit... even if you do get sides, which often DO stop? I'm not happy about taking it either but it's the best we have.
     
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    Once every 3 days.

    Yesterday... I shed around 100 hairs on my bed, by rubbing my head.

    Later that evening in the shower, I shampooed around 100 hairs onto my hands.

    Right now, few are falling onto the keyboard.

    Whats happened since last year:

    1. Surgery (11 months ago)
    2. Overseas (9 months ago)
    3. Dieting (On and off past 9 months)

    I'd love to say these are the culprits, but don't want to get too far ahead, maybe I just have aggressive male pattern baldness?

    All I know is 9 months ago, I had reasonably dense hair, with just temples slightly receded. Now I have no density whatsoever, you can see my scalp and my hairlines receded a little more.
     
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    Goingat20 Senior Member

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    hey haircoverage after looking at your pics, i would say you have male pattern baldness (The other factors you mention could be playing a rold in further hairloss). i to have been shedding heeps lately, and things are only getting worse. I think we have aggresive male pattern baldness. Hopefully it will slow down...
     
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    How many hairs do you lose a day?
     
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    UPDATE:

    This is getting ridiculous.

    Im losing 100+ hairs in the shower alone.

    Through looking in the mirror, my whole crown has thinned so that wen it was wet and combed.. i looked like a bald old man with combover hair over the crown.

    I can rub my head.. and I would say 100 to 150 hairs would fall onto the desk. My ENTIRE top head has gone thin, that it feels like AIR.

    Understandable if this was over 5 or 7 years.. but we're talking 1 year here.
     
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    whistle New Member My Regimen

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    Hi. Hope you are still using this email.
    I have a simmilar situation of you and I really wanna know what happened to you.
    did you lose all your hair or found another effective treatment.
    Hope you are fine.
     
  15. bluecyclone

    bluecyclone Senior Member My Regimen

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    Chiming in. I never shed much even when I noticed Hairloss two years ago at 40.

    Now I stopped questing and started counting once a week after a wash and the number is a scarey 203, 189, 234 all after one shower. I have been on oral minoxidil for a year and RU for 4 months. I have near NW1 hairline with crazy diffuse loss.
     
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    AnxiousAndy Senior Member My Regimen

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    I think you mean very mild diffuse loss. Have you tried finasteride yet bluecyclone?
     
  17. bluecyclone

    bluecyclone Senior Member My Regimen

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    I was told not to take Finasteride by my urologist and my endocrinologist. I of course took possibly a more risky approach with RU but take some comfort in the fact that’s it isn’t systemic.

    I am trying to get comfortable with the risks and start a trial in Finasteride, debating low dose oral or a topical.
     
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    Retinoid Senior Member My Regimen

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    I would do low dose, .25mg/day. Start of taking every two days and work up each week to everyday. Have seen this reduces side effects. After a 6 months you can move to .5mg.
     
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    bluecyclone Senior Member My Regimen

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    Think I could recover some density? I’m afraid to drop the RU at this point.
     
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    recedingornot87 Senior Member My Regimen

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    Exact same thing happening to me. Easily over 400 hairs per day. My scalp is also sore af, itchy and just straight up painful.
     

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