Prox-n vs. minoxidil for the long haul?

thinincrown

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Which of these 2 growth stimulants do think would provide long term results?

I believe Bryan had indicated that while minoxidil does provide better initial growth (after the shed) that Prox-n address's the issue from from more angles and you may not see the decline in hair counts after 3 years like you see w/ minoxidil.

Im using a strong antiandrogen and have reduced shedding to next to nothing, but need to adda growth stimulator.


any suggestions?
 

Risugo

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lakota,

The problem is Prox-n is very expensive. I believe you must stick to a regimen for at least a year, so 12 months * 100 $ is quite a large amount of money... :dunno:
 

Bryan

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Risugo said:
The problem is Prox-n is very expensive. I believe you must stick to a regimen for at least a year, so 12 months * 100 $ is quite a large amount of money... :dunno:

Prox-N doesn't cost $100 a month; you're thinking of prescription Proxiphen which costs that much. Over-the-counter Prox-N is considerably cheaper.
 

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By the way, I do agree that using Prox-N is probably more likely to have a beneficial long-term effect than just using Rogaine by itself. Prox-N has more going for it than just the one agent in Rogaine, and those things seem to me to be more important in the long-run than minoxidil. Things like various SODs, including TEMPO/TEMPOL and PBN.
 

HT55

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I have had INCREDIBLE results with Rogaine foam and would take it over Prox n any day of the week and twice on Sundays.



Maybe people ( or the person) who reccomends Prox n could provide some proof it works better, you know a study, some PHOTOS, etc and not a pic from the guy who sells its website.

Rogaine had one of those clinical study things done that shows it regrows hair in 85%, Obviously the guy who sells prox n word that his product works better holds more water than any clinical study, lol


You can get foam for $12 month on Amazon and there is no proof foam stops working as it hasn't been out long enough.

I have been on it for close to 4 years.
 

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lakota said:
I believe Bryan had indicated that while minoxidil does provide better initial growth (after the shed) that Prox-n address's the issue from from more angles and you may not see the decline in hair counts after 3 years like you see w/ minoxidil.


And by "indicated" you mean Bryan said that because he has no proof to back that up.

People on these forums try anything under the sun to grow hair, if Prox N worked even as good as rogaine you would see all sorts of threads about it but instead you have one guy who lives in the same city as the guys who sells Prox N hyping it basically because he likes the guy who sells it and has received free products from him in the past.

Ask Bryan why if the product is so great he stopped using it himself.
 

thinincrown

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thanks Bryan, and HT55, chill bro... your success w/ the foam is great to hear and if I need to add it in 6-8 mths, I will definatley will do so. I think you are right about needing more than just one cap full to get the job done....

I ordered the low cost prox-n (Dr Proctors Advaced Formula) for like $30. I like all the ingredients and will take pics and give it a 6 to 8 month go. At that point if I need an additional kick, I will add rogaine foam, based on a lot of rave reviews, including HT55's

I believe its crucial to address the anti- fibrotic/inflamatory aspects of male pattern baldness. Tricomin is a great product, but I like the additional growth stimulating aspects of Dr P's formula. If I like his low cost version of Prox-n, I will get a bottle of the "original" Prox-n and cycle then both.

RU and fluridil have done a great job covering the AA aspect, but as most educated people know, its crucial to always use an anti-androgen along w/ prox-n or minoxidil.

so its prox-n and spironolactone AM
RU and a little more prox-n PM

Mainly looking to coarsen up the vellus hairs in my crown.....

later fella's
 

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Yet to see a single success thread on prox as an alternative to minoxidil, hope you'll be the first lakota.

Have to say though I'm not really sure why you're taking 1 guy's biased(?) advice over the countless threads of minoxidil success mind you.

Bryan you should really disclose your links to Dr Proctor when you give advice like that.
 

Bryan

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hairhoper said:
Yet to see a single success thread on prox as an alternative to minoxidil, hope you'll be the first lakota.

I've previously posted a collection of rave reviews of Proxiphen from posters on alt.baldspot. Should I do that again?

You don't see much these days about Proxiphen, I believe, because Dr. Proctor doesn't seem to be advertising it much anymore, or contributing to hairloss Web sites like this one.

hairhoper said:
Have to say though I'm not really sure why you're taking 1 guy's biased(?) advice over the countless threads of minoxidil success mind you.

Bryan you should really disclose your links to Dr Proctor when you give advice like that.

I don't have any "links" to Dr. Proctor. I'm just a satisfied past user of his products.
 

hairhoper

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Everybody knows testimonials are worthless. If this stuff worked people would be shouting about it, there'd be way more threads with smug people glad they'd got there $100's worth.

I see you posted some testimonials here:

viewtopic.php?f=42&t=59349&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Just not convinced I'm afraid :/
 

HT55

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lakota said:
thanks Bryan, and HT55, chill bro... your success w/ the foam is great to hear and if I need to add it in 6-8 mths, I will definatley will do so. I think you are right about needing more than just one cap full to get the job done....

I ordered the low cost prox-n (Dr Proctors Advaced Formula) for like $30. I like all the ingredients and will take pics and give it a 6 to 8 month go. At that point if I need an additional kick, I will add rogaine foam, based on a lot of rave reviews, including HT55's

I believe its crucial to address the anti- fibrotic/inflamatory aspects of male pattern baldness. Tricomin is a great product, but I like the additional growth stimulating aspects of Dr P's formula. If I like his low cost version of Prox-n, I will get a bottle of the "original" Prox-n and cycle then both.

RU and fluridil have done a great job covering the AA aspect, but as most educated people know, its crucial to always use an anti-androgen along w/ prox-n or minoxidil.

so its prox-n and spironolactone AM
RU and a little more prox-n PM

Mainly looking to coarsen up the vellus hairs in my crown.....

later fella's


Those photos will not prove Prox n works as you are using other products. Hopefully it works for you though.

Have you ever seen Bryans photos from Prox N ? He turned a bald spot into a bald spot and is happy because his baldness did not progress, not everyone becomes a Norwood 7 so there is no proof that he would have got balder without the product, none.

Again, Bryan doesn't even use Prox n (or any of Proctors products) HIMSELF. That is ridiculus, hype a product that never regrew hair for you and a product you stopped using. Now you see why I call him out EVERYTIME he tries to waste peoples money.


I was just trying to save you money, for Bryan to claim the Sods and other stuff in Prox n are more effective than Minoxidil is comical, COMICAL !
 

HT55

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Bryan said:
Prox-N has more going for it than just the one agent in Rogaine, and those things seem to me to be more important in the long-run than minoxidil. Things like various SODs, including TEMPO/TEMPOL and PBN.


I nominate this as the most preposterous statement of the new year, lol


SOD's are more effective than Minoxidil, lol
 

HT55

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Bryan said:
hairhoper said:
I don't have any "links" to Dr. Proctor. I'm just a satisfied past user of his products.


You don't live in the same city (or very close) to proctor's office ? YES you do

You haven't met with Proctor numerous times in person ? YES you have

You have never received free products from Proctor ? YES you have.



You have been hyping his products for 15 years, I think you just want to believe by reccomending a different product than the big 3 ( a product you stopped using BTW) that it will make you more important to this forum and the numerous other hair loss sites you visit on a daily basis.

STOP WASTING PEOPLE'S MONEY !
 

thinincrown

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hairhoper said:
Yet to see a single success thread on prox as an alternative to minoxidil, hope you'll be the first lakota.

Have to say though I'm not really sure why you're taking 1 guy's biased(?) advice over the countless threads of minoxidil success mind you.

Bryan you should really disclose your links to Dr Proctor when you give advice like that.

I have add sides from minoxidil in the past so trying to find alternative grwoth stimulants
 

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HT55

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Bryan said:
You don't see much these days about Proxiphen, I believe, because Dr. Proctor doesn't seem to be advertising it much anymore, or contributing to hairloss Web sites like this one.

I don't see any adds from Merck promoting Propecia these days and people are still using it, maybe it's because Propecia actually works, lol
 
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