nizoral 1 vs 2 %...study showing 1% more effective?

rcom440

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Dogs3 said:
whats the deal with effectiveness here...

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/html/nizoral1study.cfm

This study seems to suggest that 1% is more effective than 2%? Although ive seen so many posters claim that the only effective version is the 2%...

Anyone have success with the 1%?

I've read other studies stating that 1% is as good as 2%..
Posters who claim that the ONLY EFFECTIVE version is 2% don't know what they are talking about.
 

Fundi

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I don't think 100 men (Not all of which were balding) is enough to represent the male population.

The article also implies that 1% nizoral increases hair diametre more than Minoxidil....I doubt that is true.
 

Dogs3

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well, i guess it at least shows that its effective, probably not as effective as minoxidil though, true.
 

rcom440

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Dogs3 said:
well, i guess it at least shows that its effective, probably not as effective as minoxidil though, true.

It works different way than minoxidil.
 

Dogs3

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yeah, from what i understand its an antiandrogen and reduces sebum.
 

ali777

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I have used both, and I prefer 2%.

In Jan 09, I ran out of 2% and my local shop had only 1% in stock, so I bought a bottle and used it for 3-4 months. 1% was just too weak for me, it was almost like a normal shampoo. When I switched back to 2%, I could feel the difference.
 

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ali777 said:
I have used both, and I prefer 2%.

In Jan 09, I ran out of 2% and my local shop had only 1% in stock, so I bought a bottle and used it for 3-4 months. 1% was just too weak for me, it was almost like a normal shampoo. When I switched back to 2%, I could feel the difference.

What do you mean by 'feel the difference'? did you lose hair while on the 1% or do you just mean in terms of how your scalp felt?
 

Fundi

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The other thing is, according to the article, nizoral alone should be enough to maintain and reverse hairloss (If it's increasing hair shaft diametre by 8%).

I don't know many people who have success with nizoral alone...
 

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There's another study showing nizoral is better than minoxidil. See these posts:

2% Nizoral Shampoo Increases Hair Growth in Men with Male Pattern Baldness

2% Nizoral Shampoo Increases Hair Growth More than 2% Minoxidil

Ketoconazole, the active ingredient in Nizoral (and some other) shampoos, was more effective than minoxidil in increasing hair count in men with vertex hair loss after 6 months. The increase in hair shaft diameter was the same with both ketoconazole and minoxidil. The two products appear to work through different mechanisms, as ketoconazole decreased sebum production while minoxidil increased it.
 

rcom440

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Fundi said:
The other thing is, according to the article, nizoral alone should be enough to maintain and reverse hairloss (If it's increasing hair shaft diametre by 8%).

I don't know many people who have success with nizoral alone...

what? nizoral alone should be enough to maintain and reverse hairloss? Lets not get crazy here, Nizoral is an amazing shampoo but there is no way it can maintain or reverse hairloss by itself.
 

Fundi

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rcom440 said:
Fundi said:
The other thing is, according to the article, nizoral alone should be enough to maintain and reverse hairloss (If it's increasing hair shaft diametre by 8%).

I don't know many people who have success with nizoral alone...

what? nizoral alone should be enough to maintain and reverse hairloss? Lets not get crazy here, Nizoral is an amazing shampoo but there is no way it can maintain or reverse hairloss by itself.

.....that's what I was saying.
 

Dogs3

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so the 2% is simply more concentrated right, kinda like 2 v 5% minoxidil? If I were simply to use more of the 1% it could be the equivalent of using the 2%?

-btw, i'd use the 2% but I don't want to buy it online its only available through prescription here.
 

rcom440

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Dogs3 said:
so the 2% is simply more concentrated right, kinda like 2 v 5% minoxidil? If I were simply to use more of the 1% it could be the equivalent of using the 2%?

-btw, i'd use the 2% but I don't want to buy it online its only available through prescription here.

2% dries hair like crazy. If you wont get 2% you can buy 1% and use it more often or simply use much more while shampooing and leave it on your scalp for around 7 min it will give you a similar results as 2%.
 

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I did find that 2% dried my hair more so I went with 1% and all is good now. Some guys can take the 2% and are fine but it was not in the cards for me.
 

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Dogs3 said:
ali777 said:
I have used both, and I prefer 2%.

In Jan 09, I ran out of 2% and my local shop had only 1% in stock, so I bought a bottle and used it for 3-4 months. 1% was just too weak for me, it was almost like a normal shampoo. When I switched back to 2%, I could feel the difference.

What do you mean by 'feel the difference'? did you lose hair while on the 1% or do you just mean in terms of how your scalp felt?

It was mainly how my scalp felt, and also how my hair felt. The difference in potency, at least for me, was like night and day.
 

ali777

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monty1978 said:
All I can say is good God Almight!?!?!?

I mean has anyone ever started losing their hair and monitered the difference nizoral 1 or 2% makes in isolation from any other hair loss agent. I mean really. sorry if I appear to sound as if i'm discouraging debate it's just it seems ludicrous

I haven't really "monitored" how nizoral works on my hair, but I have used 1% and 2% in isolation... It wasn't intentional or "scientific" but it has happened...
 

dpdr

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Had better results using Nizoral 2% manipulated than using Nizoral 2% industrial
 

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I glanced through the link, but would not conclude that 1% ketoconazole (Nizoral) is more effective than 2% ketoconazole. The study seems to primarily compare 1% ketoconazole to a zinc pyrithione shampoo.

The article does refer to a previous study which examined the effect of 2% ketoconazole. I'm not sure exactly which study that is, but if you compare the results from one study to those from some other study, you must consider that many of the parameters could be different, such as the length of the trial, the frequency of application, the amount used per application, vehicle, time of year, measurement methodology and even the genetic makeup of the test subjects which could differ between various regions and races etc, just to name a few.
 

Dogs3

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yeah thats true, P... All it says is there was a 8% increase in hair shaft diameter in the 1% nizoral group, as compared to a 7% increase in the 2% nizoral group, but they are taking that 2% group from a previous study..

I still think though that it may indicate that there isn't too much difference between the 1% and 2%.
 
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