Mature body hair transplant pics---successful

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michael barry

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Guys,

Scroll down this thread to view some mature body hair pictures. This guy had extensive work done. It no doubt cost him at least fifty thousand, but he was a bad repair case and Im glad the Doctor could do much for him with body hair (he obviously didnt have enough head hair to work with).

http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php ... &mode=full


He is however, a PRIME example of what men like me warn you newbies about with transplantation...................your baldness will go forward to where it was going to go even with propecia. The man in the pics would be well advised to keep minoxidil on the body hair thats been moved to his head and copper peptide products also in an attempt to give it as much hlep in looking like head hair as possible (and getting off propecia also).
 
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Aplunk,


Number one. .......Propecia, when used alone, sees quickly increasing haircounts for two years, after that................a slight reduction in haircounts every year thereafter FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. Propecia does not inhibit the enzyme that makes DHT completely as it would have to. You dont get it all........thats why, when used alone, you still (slowly) lose hair after the initial burst. At year 12-14 most patients are back where they started. This is from a surgeon and a dermatologist. The surgeon got it from attending a lecture from none other than Dr. Ken Washenik, the man leading cloning research along with Dr. Stenn at Anderans.


I want you to look VERY CLOSE at this repair picture (the top one) http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... D%26sa%3DN


Get it son?

Its not the Doctor's ability, the man got the plugs fixed pretty well, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE HUGE BALD SPOT BEHIND IT? If you bald to where you just have a hippocratic wreath, you'll only have about 40,000 hairs left on your head. Some men go so damned bald they only have 20, but thats another story. There is no way a Doctor can implant these "at purposely odd angles to give the ILLUSION of more density" to look "right". Ive seen MANY hair transplant"s in person over the years. Believe me, the website pics are the best face forward on them. In outdoor light, they look "curious" in most cases. The hair in the back also looks strangely thin. After you take about 4000 or so hairs out of the back of a guys head, believe me, you have thinned that area out. People expect the back of a mans head to host thicker hair than whats up top. When it doesnt their noses turn up, their foreheads wrinkle, they glance at each other slyly, and say...."hmmmmmmm" as they nod toward YOU>


Ive posted on any adjuctive procedures to help Transplants out, researching body hair, manual hair multiplication, and stem-cell multiplication like Intercytex and Anderans is working on. The future is in the last option to be honest. In ten years, I predict there will be very few transplants performed.....only on hairlines. We will know alot more by the end of next year as ICX is starting phase two trials in June/July according to a letter they sent to a hairsite poster that he posted for us.

By the way, if you think propecia "stops hairloss" why do you take avodart and other things?
 
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that was a body hair transplant?

bloody hell it must have taken 50 years to extract all those hairs!
 
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Those are the seven month post op results in the photos.


Heliboy is planning on anonther surgery to buff up density. Not all the body hair that was moved is in the anagen phase yet. Body hair takes time to lengthen its growth phases to match head hair (couple of years or more). He will proboably do minoxidil to enlarge the hair as much as possible over the years. It will look better another year down the line for him, and better still after a density-adding session.

Im happy for this guy as he was obviously disfigured by his first transplant. He is a textbook case of what can go wrong if you transplant at a young age. He eventually went NW5+, so he needed alot of hair to attain that coverage, but he can go out without a piece now. And Im happy for him, even though this procedure is way to expensive for many.
 
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Hmm, interesting stuff.

Just out of curiousity, what's in your regimen michael barry? Not finasteride, i'd presume :p And how's it all going for you?

I've seen you've been around here for a long while, and was curious as to the route you'd taken...
 
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Finasteride is still very much in my regimine. So is minoxidil, nizoral, and topical spironolactone, and copper peptides. Thats about all ya' can do at this point. Revivogen might be a good adjunctive or perhaps fluridil. Waitin' and holdin' on to what I have....................
 
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Michael,
I appreciate your compliments on my work thus far and you seem to be very educated on all aspects of hair loss. Thus far my results have given me my life back. When I began balding at 16 y/o Propecia was not even thought of. As a pharmacist now and knowing Propecia's potential and limitations I wish that I would have had it available at that time. I remember well when I was 16 - of immediately going to the dermatologist to find ' a cure ' for my hair loss'. All that was available then was Rogaine - which was not of any use . I resorted to a hairpiece after many strip surgeries that simply didnt fulfill coverage requirements. After 13 years and extensive work by Dr Umar I was able to rid myself of my hairpiece in February of this year. Dr Umar is an extraordinary man and physician. After my first surgery areas behind my hairline were limited to me because of still trying to wear my hairpiece and manage my grafts. That was very difficult. I have since begun one of many phases of dense packing that will eventually fill in all areas. It is important to remember - I was a Norwood 6 when I started my body hair transplants with Dr Umar. I have used 2800 grafts so far to fill in strip scars. I have only used approx 11000 grafts to fill in the entire Norwood area. It would take approx. 25,000 to completely fill this area in to a point where there is no thinning appearance. I feel that with only 11000 and desireing a short haircut I have a good start.

My goal on my upcoming procedure is to finish filling in all of my extensive strip scars which wrap around my head from ear to ear. It will take approx. 1000 more grafts into the strip. On my last trip we put in
750 forearm grafts into the strip scars. By the end it is likely we will total approx. 4000 grafts into the strip scar to achieve the appearance that I am looking.

My advice is to use what scalp hair that you have available first. These can be strategically placed depending on your amount of loss. Then proceed with body hair . Without my body hair and the great work from Dr Umar I would not be able to move on with my life after extensive strip damage.

Dr Umar - 13,866 BHT grafts (September/November 2005)(April 2006)
Upcoming procedure - September 2006
 
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I just wanna add that ive read numerous times popecia maintaining people hair without decline for over 6 years. Ive read this even on a UK forum where this guys was maintaining for like 7 years solid at the same hair counts,ect. I think it all depends on the person. It will definetly buy you time for another 5 years untill HM hits the market.
 
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Heliboy,

Your site is a fantastic place to learn about the world of hair and what can go both right and wrong. Its giving "both sides of the coin" to a newbie and lets him see the perils of further recession and what one might have to do to correct it. The donor scars you had to fill in are something that everyone should look at so they know the risks of going to some Doctor that still does mini/micro grafts and uses lasers (we have one advertising on the radio in our city as if thats the latest thing----its hysterical).

I hope you get to experiment with various growth enhancing topicals. You and Scientists experiences being shared on the web will allow others to guage their chances with body hair. I think it can be good for many who need to fill in strip scars or "buff up the back" if they have had alot moved up front.


Stax, propecia works for 83% of men according to Merk. The older men get, the less it seems to work. Baldness is something of an androgen-initiated immuno disorder in many ways. The androgens slow hair growth, and the immune system begins to see the hair as a foreign body and begins to attack it. Cyclosporin, the organ rejection drug, works better than anything we have against baldness. Its too bad it would kill you to take it for many years as you would have practically no immune system over time. There ARE some men though, who propecia does not work for. Their endocrine systems may be different. Androstenidione, DHEA, plain testosterone may be factors in their baldness. Some guys just have cueball genetics and are going to be Norwood 7 at 30 years old and practically nothing can stop it. I think guys should get on propecia for a good year and a half before considering surgery and see if it seems to be working for them first. Good luck
 
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speedo 78,

Yep, exactly...................heliboy was able to fix an utter disaster up top (hope youve seen his before pics) with body hair because he had no other choice. Its an expensive way to get coverage, but its all some men have. Men who dont have large/thick wreaths or dont want to utterly denude the wreaths to where they are obviously thin do have body hair as an option.

But its an expenisve option because Umar charges 5 bucks a graft and he's the most affordable in the United States. One body hair does not equal one head hair in circumference either.

This is what Im for....................men should know EVERYTHING before any surgical work. They should see good outdoor lit pics of front, top, sides, back and know exactly what to expect in terms of costs. They should know some further recession and thinning is virtually guaranteed as one ages, especially if they transplant young. Heliboy is willing to talk to guys and seems to have been pretty straight about what he's been through over at hairsite. His site is a good one for potential surgical "considerers" to check out.
 
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Michael,
Again I enjoy reading your thorough post. You are right in the fact that scalp hair versus body hair are not all one in the same in terms of circumference /diameter . I think this is important to know . It may take more body hair to fill an area in but I'm just thankful it is available. The old saying- Rome wasnt built in a day- A full head of head isnt always built in one session. What has changed are our options . Its not just strip anymore.Scalp FUE and body hair have simply opened up so many options for both virgin scalps and repair patients. At one point when I talked with Dr Umar during one of my procedures he stated that many of his patients were repair patients from botched strip surgeries. It is simply a shame that an industry allows this to continue.


Dr Umar - 13,866 BHT grafts (September/November 2005)(April 2006)
 
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Micheal/Speedo,
One other thing that I want to point out that is very important. On my first visit to Dr Umar a great deal of time was spent discussing expectations. I personally am one who lives with very high expectations of everything I do. Of course high expectations can sometimes lead to big dissapointments which I experienced with my previous procedures. Dr Umar told me up front I would need no less than 10,000 grafts to get an acceptable result from my expectations and upwards to 15,000 =20000 grafts to provide me with exceeded expectations. No doctor over a 10 year period of strip procedures ever told me this . It is important to not be nieve and many of us as patients are scared to ask questions. We just accept what is offered instead of asking. ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS! No what you are getting into. Go with your gut. If something doesn't feel right -it probably isnt. Having the forums available is invaluable for potential patients. There is alot of information to go through to determine what path to take.

Many people talk about cost . I have certainly answered this question many times because it is costly. But you have to put it into perspective. I had someone at work ask me about this after my third procedure in April . Now he had recently bought a $75,000 boat and he lives on the beach . What is important to look at is that my head of hair and confidence is worth to me what his $75,000 boat is worth to him. I just learn to ride a jet ski instead . I was simply tired of waiting years and years for results - and I decided over the next 12-18months to get all my work done(scar repair and Norwood area) and finance my transplant work no differently than any other long term investment. I have an equity line of credit on my home that I use - I used that and its also tax deductible. I also had to use a few other sources that I will pay back slowly over time (likely 5-6 years) but the point is if you want it bad enough and you are miserable - you can do whatever you set your mind out to do. I think that there is always a misconception in thinking that individuals who do these large procedures go to the bank and pull out huge chunks of money from savings and pay for the procedure . I can assure you I didnt have that luxury but I found a way to do it . That has always been my perspective. After I found Dr Umar I knew that it was time to finish what I had started 10 years earlier and many scars later- and learn to live life a little and stop living in a box.

Dr Umar - 13,866 BHT grafts (September/November 2005)(April 2006)
 
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