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Massive Side Effects 12 hours after taking 1mg Finpecia.

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  1. Paulee

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    I bought some Finpecia 1mg tablets off the internet from a source that Spex recommended, so far, so good, they turned up a couple of days later.

    On Satuday evening i took my first finpecia tablet, my girlfriend takes her contraceptive pill just before bed so i thought that i'd take my tablet at the same time, it would allow me to always remember to take it and it was quite cute i guess that "i was taking my boy pill and she was taking her girl pill". The doctor's plan said "take 1mg in total the first week, 2mg in the second week, 3mg in the 3rd, etc to ween youself in" so i took the pill, expecting no side effects (hoped i would be lucky) and went to bed.

    Overnight the drug must have done a number on my system because here are the sides i had when i woke up:

    1. My usual, "So brick hard you could play hoopla with it" morning erection was gone, replaced by a penis flaccid and clearly sleeping. After a little work and experimentation, it came to light that i was capable of an erection good enough to have penetrative sex, however my libido felt somewhat fragile. and when distracted for even a moment, (ie to turn the bath taps on) my erection went away.

    2. My balls had a dull ache, very annoying and scary...occasional sharp pain in groinal area...prostate hurt for 10-15 towards the end of the day. I've heard that these pains go away after a week so wasn't that freaked out about that one.

    Both of these symjptoms PALED IN COMPARISON to the main one:

    3. I should explain that i have Asperger Syndrome, a form of Autism, and with this comes a few mental health problems, i'm not sure if this means the finasteride effected me PROFOUNDLY differently from regular folk, but when i woke up that morning, i felt A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON. All my zeal and passion for life had gone, i was totally emotionally flatlined. It was like my soul had been stolen, no kidding. Things i was looking forward to suddenly meant nothing to me, i couldn't feel anything. I started to remember random things, incosequential things that didn't matter, it was like i could only access the things on the OUTSKIRTS OF MY MIND/PSYCHE, i couldn't get to the centre, and feel like me, whether that be good or bad, i could just feel nothing. Even today, a whole day after. as i sit here in my own house, nothing feels familiar to me.

    As I woke up this morning, i had an erection, it wasn't rock hard as usual, but it was ok-ish, my mood hasn't really improved, still feel quite nihilistic, though small feelings of familiarity creep back occasionally, and my balls kind of hurt but not as bad. I'm desperately scared that i'm going to stay this way, not get back to who I am and have permanent sides, it's also scary that no one else has seemed to mention this emotional flatlining (i've tried to search the forums but i might be doing it wrong) and no one seems to have had such a MASSIVE reaction to 1mg of finasteride.

    I shall add that i'm quite effeminate (or at least in the middle, certainly not masculine) and only have NW2 loss, do you think i'm trying to, metaphorically, cut a loaf of bread with a chainsaw? am i using a massively too-powerful drug on a body that doesn't have that much testosterone anyway?

    What do you reckon i should do? I'm not supposed to take another tablet til saturday, but i don't think i'm ever gonna take a whole 1mg tablet of finasteride again, it messed me up too much. How about waiting a week then trying half a mg?

    Any advice would be greatly received as i'm freaking the f*** out. :shock:

    Cheers, Paul.
     
  2. Joe-1991

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    This really isn't that unusual. The same things happened to me when I was on the drug and now even after quitting a year ago, it has completely ruined my sexuality. How would you feel if that but even worse became permanent?
     
  3. Pyro

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    how can you even contemplate taking another one, even half of one after one tablet did that to you? seriously lol
     
  4. waldo

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    keep your hands away from that stuff. if you got sides now, chances are very high you will on the long run cause damage to your body, even if your sides fade away while continuing the treatment. however im by far no expert, just talking out of my own experience and judgement.
     
  5. Technical

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    Staying away from it would be a good idea. I can assure you that the chances you won't recover after taking a measly 1mg of find is 0.000001%. Honestly your sides are most likely just from anxiety. Just try and forget about it, don't read horror stories on the net and move on.
     
  6. Wuffer

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    Since you have already written an extremely detailed log of your experience after only one pill, I think it's safe to say you are a person that leans towards the obsessive side of the fence. Taking that into account (and the fact that you said you're "freaking the f*** out"), I would say that it's probably more likely that some or all of your symptoms are psychosomatic and a result of anxiety.

    That being said, it's impossible for any of us to differentiate psychosomatic symptoms from real ones, and very difficult for even you to do this. It's definitely possible all of your symptoms are caused by Finasteride, but I would say it's quite unlikely after 12 hours of taking your first pill.

    Since you seem to be the obsessive type, I would say that finasteride isn't for you, and it's best to just quit and move on to another treatment. If finasteride is actually causing these problems, it's also best not to continue taking it.

    Tough luck, but it seems like some other viable options are on the horizon, so don't give up hope.
     
  7. Rawtashk

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    That sounds like a pretty big laundry list of things to go wrong in less than 12hrs. Seems a bit suspect that it would go to work on you that fast, which makes me think it might be an "all in your head" type of event.

    However, if you have doubts and you're going to obsess about it, then it's probably just best to cut your losses and move on to another form of treatment.

    Good luck to you in your fight against hairloss!
     
  8. Timi

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    Paulee

    take You minoxidil??

    Timi
     
  9. Primo

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    :jackit: :jackit: :jackit:

    That's bullshit. I got sides after the first night too, not everyone develops sides after 10 or 12years thankfully!

    Paulie, I also had an "emotional flatline" experience if you like, after taking finasteride for a week. Just felt completely lethargic, depressed and had no desire to do anything...

    As has been mentioned on this forum many, many times before, DHT is essential for your Central Nervous System and when finasteride takes that away it causes some people to become DHT deficient and so they suffer mental as well as physical sides as the CNS cannot function properly, hence "brain fog, depression" etc....

    Don't let any finfag on this forum tell that your sides are f*cking "psychosomatic" that is just a dig they will take at you to make themselves feel better about their own lifetime gamble. Just listen to your body & quit the drug, as said above there are plenty other alternatives.
     
  10. Rawtashk

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    It's people like you that make forums like this a worse place. No one (well, except people like you) is here to diss people or get into fights. Everyone is here for the same reason, and everyone here wants the same thing...so why are you getting your panties all in a twist.

    You obviously had a bad experience with finasteride, and I'm sorry about that. However, that doesn't mean that no one else should ever take finasteride. It works on a majority of men, WITHOUT side effects. It's also nothing but ignorance when you lump everyone that takes finasteride into one giant "finfag" category.

    Your blatant rage also (evidently) makes you read what you want to read....seeing as how you completely skipped over when Wuffer said this
    or when I said
    Calm the rage. We all want the same thing here. Not everyone will follow your same treatment path, and not everyone will have the same results as you.
     
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  11. Prop

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    i discourage too the fina use

    i see that there are lot of people that never experience sides, but, because i'm
    one of the unlucky i can't say any good

    6-7 yrs use, i felt no sides
    they were sneaky

    some months after quit they appeared full strenght
     
  12. Wuffer

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    While I admit I am no scientist or medical professional by any stretch, it’s probably best you don’t listen to any individual who chooses to convey their opinion with emotionally charged garbage like that.

    Primo, how do you expect anybody to take your opinion seriously when you post like that? Finfag? Really? Go back to your playpen please; adults are talking.

    As Rawtashk mentioned, I’m not discounting the fact that finasteride may be causing real problems. That would be very short-sighted opinion. However, it would be just as short-sighted for anyone to say that it’s not possible for a person to experience ED or brain fog or a multitude of other panic induced symptoms resulting from reading terrifying horror stories online about a drug they are taking.

    Think of it this way. Your brain’s number one goal is to keep you alive and safe. When you read, over and over, that a medication you are taking could cause a laundry list of horrible symptoms and lifelong problems, your mind is going to want you to stop it. This can result in many of the symptoms you fear to actually manifest.

    When experiencing any problems on finasteride, you need to consider both sides of things, because its possible finasteride is actually causing the problems. It’s also possible your mind is causing all of the problems, or a combination of both. Personally, I experienced a myriad of symptoms shortly after starting finasteride. All of these were psychosomatic, and when I figured out how to ignore the obsession and talk myself down from the anxiety rationally, the symptoms quickly abated. Obviously this is my unique experience, and I’m probably more prone to this happening because of my inclination towards these types of problems, but I still believe many others go through the same thing.

    Anyway, if you have trouble figuring things out on your own, it’s best to talk to your doctor to see if you can sort things out together. Good luck man.
     
  13. Rawtashk

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    Again, it appears that you got sides and are now very bitter about the whole situation. Why do you feel the need to throw personal attacks at me based on my opinions? I didn't call anyone a "finfag" or hint at the same thing by calling people emotional because of extra estrogen.

    You also did the same think where you instantly just heard what you wanted to hear and start ranting about "IT"S NOT ALL IN YOUR MIND!!!!!!!! U R SO DUM!!!". Again...neither Wuffer or myself EVER said that it was just in your mind and sides are a lie.

    Also, the OP said that he "hoped he would be lucky" to not get sides. Therefore, it is logical to assume that he was aware of potential sides. You seem to think that he was 100% oblivious to potential sides, but I would disagree.

    Another thing to glean from his message....his Doctor said "start with 1mg total during week 1". I'm going to assume that means .25mg 4 times during the week, not 1mg all at once. Would this have made any difference? Probably not. Can anyone say with 100% certainty? No.

    Last thing....you say that all of those sides are too much for the mind to give you. I would argue that the mind can do much, MUCH, more. Read this
    http://www.cracked.com/article_19209_th ... -sick.html
     
  14. Rawtashk

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    Regardless of what side of the fence you're on, you should check out that article. It's pretty impressive the power that your mind has over your body.
     
  15. Wuffer

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    That’s an awesome article. I love Cracked!

    When I was treating my past anxiety condition with CBT, my therapist told me a story about witchdoctors in tribes. Most of western civilization think it's hocus-pocus BS, but in reality they are ractually able to ‘heal’ and ‘curse’ people because they believe 100% without a doubt that these doctors are the real deal. Even if they are suffering from a serious illness, they are able to actually cometimes cure people, or at least alleviate symptoms to a substantial degree just because the tribes-people believe in it so much. It sounds rediculous to tell someone who is sick to "think positively" and they will get better, but it's really true. It's also well documented how much better people do recovering from disease with a positive mindset versus negative.

    On the other hand, if these people are cursed to death, they can actually f*cking die from it. It’s well documented; they are so convinced that these curses are real that their bodies literally self-destruct and they will suffer a heart attack or stroke and die. Again, they believe it so strongly; their minds make it all happen. It’s really quite messed up!

    My therapist told me about this as a segue into convincing me that my symptoms (resulting from anxiety, way before I started on finasteride) were actually in my mind, and not a result of some unknown condition I had been trying to figure out and treat for the last 6 or so years. I’ve said before, I literally owe my life to my therapist for showing this to me, and giving me the tools I needed to become well again.

    My point here is that even if you are a completely rational and intelligent individual, your mind can really f*ck you over with the right (or wrong) catalysts.

    BTW I’m not implying this is happening to anyone else, it’s just an anecdote about my experience to further support my (and I guess Rawtashk’s) viewpoint. I hope this thread can continue with mature discussion and personal heated attacks (yes you, Primo) might be avoided.
     
  16. johnbbbb

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    Yeah right, the OP clearly has massive anxiety around finasteride. There's no way ONE dose of Propecia will cause catastrophic side effects he's describing.
     
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    Try and not make absolute statements, that tends to inflame the other side (although it seems that they will also find any reason they can to yell and scream at you...kind of like in politics). I would agree that it's highly unlikely, but there are very few things I would but out of the realm of total possibility.
     
  18. Prop

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    LOOL :woot:

    it sounds like taking cocaine, hang out with this cool cocaine people, but after ten yrs the coolness will turn into hell
     
  19. hairrific

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    Oh brother! People! Please! Calm down! :smack:

    Doctor ordered finasteride for his patient. Period. Gave explicit instructions.

    He only tried one day for heavens sake. The endocrine system needs time to adjust. Your suppose to give it a month to try it. Your body will adjust to it.

    Only a one day try out is, well, lets just freak out, the water is wet, get out, it got into my ears oh no, it might leak up into my ass to!

    Many including me have had the same reactions to finasteride at first and now life is good no sides, sex life is super great, etc. and I have HALTED ALL HAIR LOSS JUST IN TIME TO KEEP the MAJORITY OF IT.

    My suggestion: Call your doctor, tell him what happened and ask if he is certain you can continue to try finasteride taking into consideration your condition etc. But if he already prescribed it to you then lets assume he new what he was doing but double check with him to be sure.

    PS.
    There is a huge market for Viagra and Cialis because there is a huge amount of guys that are having ED or sexual issues. AND THEY NEVER EVEN TOUCHED finasteride OR ANY 5AR INHIBITOR or anything else for that matter. So whats that spell?
     
  20. Primo

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    Hmmmmmm,

    Lets clarify this for a start by "finfags" I was referring to finasteride users who continually bash people on other regimens/tell them constantly that serious life-changing side effects are in fact "psychosomatic". No offence intended to all parties & my apologies.

    But seriously, if a minoxidil user tried to dismiss some other poor guy's minoxidil side effects as "psychosomatic" i'd be on that too. Luckily for me my heart's not beating 200times a minute and my face isn't wrinkling like a prune, but I know many others on this forum who are suffering similar sides & I'm not going to dismiss them out of hand.

    I went into finasteride with an open mind, never went to any forums & really had no idea about the sides, it was only when after a week of feeling like I was permanently hungover and repeatedly not being able to please my girlfriend in bed, did I realise something was actually definitely wrong & consulted forums like these. After coming off for 3weeks, thankfully I was fine.

    However I have seen many users on this forum extoll the virtues of finasteride and tell me constantly how shit & lightweight my regimen is, before 6-12months later suffering finasteride sides themselves & realising in fact they weren't so smart after all.

    Now Wuffer, Rawshatk or however you spell your name (sorry) I wish you both the best of luck, I'm sure you'll both do great & I'm well are there are plenty finasteride users taking pills for 15years+ having sex 4x a day with their 12inch iron penises & that's fantastic! but if someone is suffering the whole package of sides after 1 day, they are most definetely real, not imaginary... these are just the type of users who should quit immediately & to tell them to persevere is only going to risk causing irrepairable damage to their endocrine system.

    I'm all about embracing and praising the success stories of which there are many, but also helping to prevent the horror stories which are actually a lot more important.
     

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