Kerry Ad ....

[HairlossTalk]

I don't support Bush either, but Kerry must have done something extremely bad for these good men to be saying such strong words about him, with such conviction.

http://swift2.he.net/~swift2/anyquestions.mov

 

[MidnightFlyer]

I couldn't get the link to materialize, but if it's about those swift boat assholes, funded by Texas, Republican money, forget it.

I wish you would have seen John O'Neil on Hardball. Chris Matthews reamed the guy, finally getting the guy to admit that Kerry showed courage in Vietnam, and that was more than most people had done, including the President.

 

[avri]

Hi,


[edit] link: Navy Commander, Journalist, Backs Kerry on Vietnam [/edit]


Even Sen. John McCain asked the Bush campaign to renounce these accusations against Kerry. By the way, what was Bush doing at the time Kerry served his country, besides drunk driving?


avri

 

[MontyWockenfuss]

Better to be exxagerating injuries that happened 30 years ago (which I doubt he did anyways) than to be exxagerating about a false rationale for an oil war.

A lot of these guys are still upset that Kerry came home and protested against the war. Sucks for them. It'd be nice if they could get over that and cease supporting a right-wing fascist like Bush.

MW

 

[MontyWockenfuss]

Better to be exxagerating injuries that happened 30 years ago (which I doubt he did anyways) than to be exxagerating about a false rationale for an oil war.

I don't consider the Kerry campaign website to be the holy gospel of truth or anything, but there's far more citations to disprove this ad here than there is on any GOP site:

http://www.johnkerry.com/rapidresponse/ ... truth.html

And out of all the men who served on Kerry's boat, only one of them isn't supporting his campaign (and that guy is still upset because Kerry came back and testified to Congress about how unjust Vietnam was). Even the registered Republicans who served on Kerry's boat (and there are quite a few) are helping his campaign out of loyalty to what he did for them.

It'd be nice if they could get over that and cease supporting a right-wing fascist like Bush who is desperately trying to fight an unwinnable lie of a war that mirrors the conflict that put these very men in needless danger.

MW

 

[blue]

Politics make me sick.Im going to vote for myself as a write in.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

...these good men.''

Depends on your definition of 'good men.' None of them served with Kerry, and the Navy signed off on all the awards. John O'Neil debated Kerry in 1971 on the Dick Cavett Show, he was put there by Nixon and Colson to try to debunk Kerry's testimony. O'Neill has had a hard on for Kerry for 35 years. He's bitter and frustrated. And so are the others. Check out some facts here; http://mediamatters.org/

and here's one that claims to be non-partisan: http://factcheck.org/

 

[Guest]

I'm voting for blue too and I'm not even an American citizen.

 

[Bryan]

I'm voting for blue too and I'm not even an American citizen.

As LBJ once said, "Vote early and often"! :lol:

Bryan

 

[The Dude]

These vets are unaffiliated with the Republican party. In fact the party is upset over this because the strategy is not to attack Kerry's service. They know it is unwise. Bush has never attacked Kerry's service.

As for Saddam, I suppose you guys would prefer he was still in power, right? He is a known terrorist. The 9/11 commission found no evidence of a link to 9/11, but their report says there are plenty of links between Saddam and Al Queda. Funny how the NY times and other liberal media forgot to run that part of the story, and in some cases infuriated the commision by stating there was no link to Al Queda. Not only that, but Saddam was in bed with plenty of other terrorist organizations. Ever heard of Hezbollah? Hamas? Try reading up on Saddam and Abu Nidal. My own feeling is that if you murder hundreds of thousands of your own citizens, you forfeit your dictator card.

The 9/11 commission also found that Joe Wilson lied about his own report. That's right, folks, Saddam DID try to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger. And to give you an idea about just how important this election is, Iran is on track to begin producing nuclear bombs within 3 years. That means, whoever wins this election must deal with the most terrorist state on the planet obtaining nukes. Do you want someone who will stand up to this threat or someone who will go to the U.N. and talk it over with rational-minded countries like Syria and Lybia just long enough to be too late?

One of you guys mentioned OIL INTERESTS. Nowhere is there more oil profiteering than at the U.N. High ranking French and Russian officials were bribed to the tune of 11 billion dollars through the oil for food program. But I'm sure their opposition to the war was honest, right? It had nothing to do with the gravy train they were on or the fact that they wanted to avoid shaming their countries by being caught.

I've voted for democrats in the last 4 elections, but this time my vote goes to Bush.

This video sums up Kerry's positions on Iraq
http://www.kerryoniraq.com/

 

[HairlossTalk]

Midnight - well I was making the assumption that these guys weren't lying on national television, because some did plainly say they served with him, in the ad. In fact several said that.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Midnight - well I was making the assumption that these guys weren't lying on national television, because some did plainly say they served with him, in the ad. In fact several said that.

When they say they served with him, is like saying your grandpa served with Ike, cause they were both in WWII. Yes, they were all in Vietnam at the time, and several had many contacts with Kerry, but none served UNDER his command, on his 2 swiftboats.

It's true that several claim they were next to him on the river, meaning they were witnesses to some of the events from adjacent swift boats.

Check out the websites that were posted here. They explain everything.

 

[21gone]

Here here blue I am with you, I have been telling everyone I am voting for myself, dont really like Bush and really dont like Kerry either.

 

[Brasileirao]

These vets are unaffiliated with the Republican party. In fact the party is upset over this because the strategy is not to attack Kerry's service. They know it is unwise. Bush has never attacked Kerry's service.

As for Saddam, I suppose you guys would prefer he was still in power, right? He is a known terrorist. The 9/11 commission found no evidence of a link to 9/11, but their report says there are plenty of links between Saddam and Al Queda. Funny how the NY times and other liberal media forgot to run that part of the story, and in some cases infuriated the commision by stating there was no link to Al Queda. Not only that, but Saddam was in bed with plenty of other terrorist organizations. Ever heard of Hezbollah? Hamas? Try reading up on Saddam and Abu Nidal. My own feeling is that if you murder hundreds of thousands of your own citizens, you forfeit your dictator card.

The 9/11 commission also found that Joe Wilson lied about his own report. That's right, folks, Saddam DID try to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger. And to give you an idea about just how important this election is, Iran is on track to begin producing nuclear bombs within 3 years. That means, whoever wins this election must deal with the most terrorist state on the planet obtaining nukes. Do you want someone who will stand up to this threat or someone who will go to the U.N. and talk it over with rational-minded countries like Syria and Lybia just long enough to be too late?

One of you guys mentioned OIL INTERESTS. Nowhere is there more oil profiteering than at the U.N. High ranking French and Russian officials were bribed to the tune of 11 billion dollars through the oil for food program. But I'm sure their opposition to the war was honest, right? It had nothing to do with the gravy train they were on or the fact that they wanted to avoid shaming their countries by being caught.

I've voted for democrats in the last 4 elections, but this time my vote goes to Bush.

This video sums up Kerry's positions on Iraq
http://www.kerryoniraq.com/

I second that

 

[blue]

Yea, well...
I dont like either of them that much but politics in general just bore me.

 

[Chujgcha]

...

 

[MidnightFlyer]

As for Saddam, I suppose you guys would prefer he was still in power, right?

Absolutely. He was totally contained. They had unmanned aerial vehicles monitoring him constantly. The inspectors were there. We had satellite imagery. He couldn't sleep in the same bed 2 nights in a row.

He was NO THREAT to anyone! He certainly wasn't worth the life of 1,000 of our soldiers, 5,000 maimed for life, and 10.000 innocent Iraqy bystanders. The whole mideast was held in a delicate balance - which cowboy Bush obliterated! Why? Cause God told him to...

Yes, if Saddam was still in power THE WORLD WOULD BE A SAFER PLACE! Your arguement is the typical right wing drivel!

 

[21gone]

Midnight The inspectors were there when he allowed them. I guess it does not matter that he killed thousands and thousands and lets not forget thousands of his own people because they were either of a different ethnic group or did not like his political beliefs. As far as WMD we know he had the ingrediants because we gave them to him during the Iran contra scandal. And it has been documented that he used them on the Kurds in the early 90's. If you want the link I will send it to you. I am not right winged nor left winged. As far as your remark about delicate balance, your kidding right? I do not know about everyone else but the Mideast was far from being balanced. But this is people sharing their opinions and you get so mad about it. With Bush bad stuff can be said and with Kerry bad stuff can be said, now its the lesser of two evils.[/list]

 

[DAC21]

As for Saddam, I suppose you guys would prefer he was still in power, right?

Absolutely. He was totally contained. They had unmanned aerial vehicles monitoring him constantly. The inspectors were there. We had satellite imagery. He couldn't sleep in the same bed 2 nights in a row.

He was NO THREAT to anyone! He certainly wasn't worth the life of 1,000 of our soldiers, and 10.000 innocent Iraqy bystanders. The whole mideast was held in a delicate balance which cowboy Bush obliterated!

Yes, if he was still in power THE WORLD WOULD BE A SAFER PLACE! Your arguement is the typical right wing bullshit!

Funny how the righteous lefties have no regard for the 400,000 Iraqi's that Saddam turned into compost. Just like the Sudan and the UN non-action, they can just explain it away, pathetic.

I guess you also tell us about your first hand knowledge about how Libya was going to give it up whether we took out Saddam or not. Them knowing Bush wasn't screwing around had nothing to do with it, right?

Please also fill me in on your data, "10.000 innocent Iraqi bystanders"
I'm sure that little tidbit is from an unbiased source such as, BBC, ABC, NYT, LAtimes. BUUUWWWWWHAHAHAHAH

While your researching your BS, please also site how this country has benefited from Iraqi oil.

Next please tell me how John F'n Kerry seamed to have been wrong about being in Cambodia on Dec. 24th 1968. Remember he has told the story on dozens of occasions, and it is "seared into his memory" How can one forget about all those drunk Atheists / Buddhist celebrating on Christmas Eve. It took Kerry's spin machine two days’s to come up with a lie to cover for the original lie.

Kerry is a sociopath, hypocritical liar. The man has nothing to show for 19 years in the Senate, which was obvious from his Convention speech. All you could gather from that diatribe was that he was some kind of war hero, BUUUUWHWHWHWHW

All one needs to do is realize what organizations, people, political ideology support Kerry to determine where YOUR vote should go.

1, Communist party USA
2. Socialist Party USA
3. Abortion on demand
4. Abortion of viable fetus.
5. No parental notification for abortion (minors)
6. Socialized medicine ( ask Canada how that's going)
7. Redistribution of wealth = hard work, education isn't worth $hit
8. Voting rights for Illegal aliens
9. Giving 1/2 votes to 14 and 16 year olds (yep their trying in Calif.)
10 Gutting defense and intelligence, Kerry done a good job trying already.


The list is endless.

For all you OPEN MINDED lefty's, whom preach tolerance, I dare you to have a couple of reads

http://www.brookesnews.com/041608-john-kerry.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main ... do2002.xml

http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cs ... eyn15.html

 

[Brasileirao]

As for Saddam, I suppose you guys would prefer he was still in power, right?

Absolutely. He was totally contained. They had unmanned aerial vehicles monitoring him constantly. The inspectors were there. We had satellite imagery. He couldn't sleep in the same bed 2 nights in a row.

He was NO THREAT to anyone! He certainly wasn't worth the life of 1,000 of our soldiers, and 10.000 innocent Iraqy bystanders. The whole mideast was held in a delicate balance which cowboy Bush obliterated!

Yes, if he was still in power THE WORLD WOULD BE A SAFER PLACE! Your arguement is the typical right wing bullshit!

Funny how the righteous lefties have no regard for the 400,000 Iraqi's that Saddam turned into compost. Just like the Sudan and the UN non-action, they can just explain it away, pathetic.

I guess you also tell us about your first hand knowledge about how Libya was going to give it up whether we took out Saddam or not. Them knowing Bush wasn't screwing around had nothing to do with it, right?

Please also fill me in on your data, "10.000 innocent Iraqi bystanders"
I'm sure that little tidbit is from an unbiased source such as, BBC, ABC, NYT, LAtimes. BUUUWWWWWHAHAHAHAH

While your researching your BS, please also site how this country has benefited from Iraqi oil.

Next please tell me how John F'n Kerry seamed to have been wrong about being in Cambodia on Dec. 24th 1968. Remember he has told the story on dozens of occasions, and it is "seared into his memory" How can one forget about all those drunk Atheists / Buddhist celebrating on Christmas Eve. It took Kerry's spin machine two days’s to come up with a lie to cover for the original lie.

Kerry is a sociopath, hypocritical liar. The man has nothing to show for 19 years in the Senate, which was obvious from his Convention speech. All you could gather from that diatribe was that he was some kind of war hero, BUUUUWHWHWHWHW

All one needs to do is realize what organizations, people, political ideology support Kerry to determine where YOUR vote should go.

1, Communist party USA
2. Socialist Party USA
3. Abortion on demand
4. Abortion of viable fetus.
5. No parental notification for abortion (minors)
6. Socialized medicine ( ask Canada how that's going)
7. Redistribution of wealth = hard work, education isn't worth $hit
8. Voting rights for Illegal aliens
9. Giving 1/2 votes to 14 and 16 year olds (yep their trying in Calif.)
10 Gutting defense and intelligence, Kerry done a good job trying already.


The list is endless.

For all you OPEN MINDED lefty's, whom preach tolerance, I dare you to have a couple of reads

http://www.brookesnews.com/041608-john-kerry.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main ... do2002.xml



http://www.suntimes.com/output/steyn/cs ... eyn15.html

Brilllliant! People are so quick to point out Bush's fault, but we all must realize that the middle east is a messssss! They hate us and sonner or later we would have had to deal with Saddam.

Also, have you guys been keeping up with whats going on in Africa. Before you know it that place will be nothing but empty land. But, of course the U.N. will come to us for help in restoring peace, before that happens.