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  1. CaptainCook

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    Alright so I'm almost 22 and have been losing my hair since I was 18. I still have the same hairline (which was never very wide at the front to begin with) but it's very thin and can see my scalp when it's greasy. Been on 1mg Finn for around 5-6 months. (No idea if it's working, thinning is very slow anyway.) I'm considering trying minoxidil now too but I've heard it doesn't really work on the front of the hair. Anyhow, I need a plan. I have long hair and can completely hide my hair loss at the moment but it's still completely destroyed my confidence. I haven't gotten laid in 6 months. I can't speak to women anymore out of fear that they'll someday see me with my hair back and be repulsed by it.


    I need to do something that will bring back my confidence. If I just leave my hair I'll have to shave it within the next year or so and I have too much of a baby face to pull off being bald. . So if the minoxidil doesn't thicken up my hair, I'm planning on either getting a transplant or the micro pigmentation thingy done. For arguments sake, say money isn't an issue. What would you guys do?

    **hair loss is only currently at the front**
     
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    transplant
     
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    Don't get a hair tattoo you'd probably regret it in the long run. I mean all the hair line tattoo does is mask the actual problem, if someone touches that area, or sees it up close they'll realize its all a facade. At least a hair transplant is the real thing. Real hair > Fake tattoo hair.
     
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    Well i was in the same boat and got smp
    Believe me **** all people touch your hair
    It looks so realistic no one has realozed even the people i live with
    Im gonna grt a hair transplant down the track to give stubble and smp to make it look thicker
    Up2u though
     
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    This. Prioritize real f-ing hair. And if you ever run out of donor, hair grafts and beard grafts, consider SMP for a last improvement.
     
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    Try minoxidil. It does work on the front. Source: tried it.
     
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    Yeah man I know what you mean, my hair loss started when I was 14 and I have gotten laid since...... Or before. On a serious note, What Norwood are you rolling with? If you have are a Norwood 2.5 or something most people wont see it . I have a 2.5 going on 3 thing going on and I just call it a "distinguished" hairline. One thing I should mention is that my hair is a little longer so you can't see any thinning on the front without looking hard.
     
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    Just a comment on this. Most women arent repulsed by hair loss, and a lot of women are in fact into a bald head. Look around at dudes everywhere in various stages of hair loss, with women at their sides. Almost no one cares about this except the guy who is losing the hair (myself included). So I wouldnt worry about it to this extreme no matter what your hair looks like. Of course you can talk to women, and date them.
     
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    Teenage girls care the most, then girls in their early 20s, girls in their mid 20s, by late 20s they start to care less, and early 30s, by mid 30s to 40s most women accept it. It really depends on what life stage you're at. All women care. For younger women it's a deal breaker and sucks for younger guys. For older women it's less so. Of course we all want to get some action when we're young, and with younger women, so it's a pretty big deal.
     
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    The two guys I knew in high school who were losing their hair (basically bald) had good looking, steady girlfriends. These 2 guys radiated confidence regardless of their hair condition. What many girls (and people in general, for sure) are attracted to is confidence. You can see it in every area of life... popular radio talk show hosts, popular politicians, guys who are popular with girls. Ultimately it's about confidence not physical appearance, including hair. Not with all people obviously, but many or most. If your hair makes you unconfident and you radiate that, then I think missing social opportunities becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. Some young baldish/bald or not so physically attractive guys do most definitely have nice girlfriends... the funny and/or seemingly confident ones who don't seem to care about their hair, even if they really do.
     
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    this will not end well...
     
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    Waddaya mean?

    I can tell you how it actually ended. One married his good looking girlfriend. The other ended up marrying an even better looking woman. Both have 2 kids.

    I'm not saying that there's no reason to try to improve your hair, obviously I'm in the same boat. I like hair. But you know you can have a girlfriend, have a social life, even be popular and charismatic, without hair. Of course.
     
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    I won't indeed. Girls are attracted to f-ing looks. You're living in a fairy tale world if you believe otherwise.

    It's biological. Women are attracted to unalterable physical traits: face, height, hair, natural frame etc.

    Why? Because they have evolved to be able to tell the difference.

    Otherwise they would just sleep with short bald weak men (but who are confident!), and that would be so great for the survival of our species, right?!

    This "women are attracted to confidence" talk you've been fed is just BS. Complete BS. That would suppose you can trick women into sleeping with you.

    I hope you don't believe women can be tricked, because it's impossible. They decide if they will ever sleep with you instantly when they meet you.

    Now being bald isn't great when you know this fact. You see bald guys with girlfriends because a lot of women will settle for bald men in a relationship.

    At least they know they won't be able to easily run away with another girl, since the vast majority of women won't ever consider mating with a bald man.

    When it comes to true sexual attraction, your confidence and your jokes won't do jack sh*t. It's all looks.

    And it has been proven many times that for one night stands, women will only take the guy's looks onto account.

    It's only when it's for their long-term benefits that they will consider your personality, humor, confidence etc., while still longing to be f-cked by a hot tall NW1.

    You need both (looks and personality) for a healthy long-term relationship.

    That's why I think these bald men in a relationship are probably getting cucked. Sorry to shatter your dreams.

    You can have a girlfriend, have a social life, be popular and charismatic without hair.

    Your girlfriend just won't truly love you. And probably even resent you for being bald.

    That's why there is a big percentage of chance that she will f-ck NW1's behind your back.

    We've been over this many times on this forum.

    And you won't convince the veterans here that being bald isn't a huge disadvantage when it comes to women and relationships.
     
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    Oh my God dude... I don't know if you're being serious, being half serious, or completely joking. (I won't say "trolling" because you seem like a good dude regardless.) So I'm not sure how far to go in responding to this, because if you're joking then I'm being silly for giving a serious response, and if you're serious you obviously feel very strongly and aren't going to be convinced of anything by some random message board post. But I mean, dude,

    "Your girlfriend just won't truly love you." (if you don't have hair)?

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    That's why I think these bald men in a relationship are probably getting cucked. Sorry to shatter your dreams."

    No dude... just no... I haven't been "fed" anything about confidence or charisma or whatever. I have a lifetime of experience and dating experience, and I know, like, a lot of actual human beings who lost their hair and got hot girlfriends and wives who had plenty of other choices, had happy relationships and are happily married. Of course some people are only attracted to people with hair, but not all, and some girls are absolutely attracted to dudes specifically with shaved heads. Just as there are guys who have a choice of marrying a hot girl or an average looking girl and they choose the average looking one because she makes them laugh, or she's smart. And the opposite. Life is not JUST about looks - and anyway some dudes look good with shaved heads. And obviously some people have charismatic personalities and people are drawn to them. Anyone with life experience knows that. You cant really believe most of you wrote..? A girl attracted to a guy or who loves a guy with a receding hairline or a shaved head must be being "tricked", as a rule?! That's just so so wrong... again you seem like a good guy and I say this with all due respect.




     
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    I'm always serious. You have been fed lies because you still think confidence can trigger sexual attraction in girls. It can't.

    Everyone likes to be around confident men who make them laugh, that doesn't mean you want to f-ck them.

    These bald guys you talk about most likely had compensatory features the vast majority of bald men don't have.

    I had my height for example. Make me 5"7' and I could kiss goodbye to my dating life, no matter how confident and funny I was.

    When was the last time you (or anyone on this planet) have heard a woman say: "I want to f-ck that guy because he's confident!"
     
  16. yetti

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    Ha, you don't see hot girls on the arms of the freakiest guys, all the time? And say to yourself, "how did he get her"? Some of the time, he got her because he attracted her. She's not always being "tricked". Not everyone agrees with your absolutes about what's attractive, physically or mentally.

    1. People without hair can be physically attractive. Full stop.

    2. People who are not physically attractive get mates all the time. Because they are attracted to them, for whatever reason. Some are better looking, some are worse looking.

    You write almost as if you are on another planet. Human beings are not uniformly attracted to the same looks, the same personalities... yes there are some people who are undeniably physically attractive to most other people, and those traits have been well-documented - high cheeckbones, whatever. Johnny Depp. But then it gets very subjective. Period. I know guys who like superskinny girls, and guys who like big booty. And they swear by what they like, and are sure that's whats universally attractive - as sure as you are. There are people who love to see tattoos all over someones body, others are completely repulsed by it. And they're also convinced that what they like is absolute... as sure as you are. And they are wrong. You're sure that hair is for some reason an absolute? Ha... no way..........
     
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    I don't, hot girls with ugly guys are the exception, definitely not the rule. And when you dig a little, you always find out there's status or money involved.

    People without hair can be handsome, but not in the conventional way, that's why you never see bald models or bald lead actors in romantic comedies.

    People who aren't attractive don't get mates all the time. I call BS on that, and even PUA BS. 99% of the time, couples are looks-matched. Or the guy is above the girl.

    Women are not sexually attracted to men for "whatever reason". Science has proven only looks attract women sexually.

    Women can be attracted to status, personality and money, but for other reasons that are not sexual.

    You're right, different women have different types. But what is universally attractive (height, symmetrical face, full head of hair) doesn't variate.

    Guys don't have types. Most guys will have sex with any woman who wants as long as she's decent. And if you say otherwise, you're just lying.

    Lack of hair on your head is an absolute when it comes to looks. It's never considered attractive. All men look worse with a slick NW5 on their heads.

    This is not even up for debate.
     
  18. yetti

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    >>People who aren't attractive don't get mates all the time. I call BS on that,

    Obviously by "all the time", I did not mean that every human being has a mate. I meant it as in the expression "it rains here all the time": Often. No need to call BS.

    >You're right, different women have different types. But what is universally attractive (height, symmetrical face, full head of hair) doesn't variate.

    Dude my life experience tells me differently. Guys with shaved heads are hot to some girls. Have you never talked to a girl before? Some are into it. And some don't care either way.

    >Lack of hair on your head is an absolute when it comes to looks. It's never considered attractive.

    "Never" is a big word. I've known a lot of women who are into it... including my own wife. Before you say "she's lying", keep in mind that I've known this about her for years, but I've only started to lose hair very recently. So it's not something she says for my benefit, it's something she's into. She thinks it's sexy. As do some other women. And again, I've known several guys who started losing their hair, shaved their heads, and were attractive to women. They were not rich or famous or great looking. One was very funny. Another was "deep", "philosophical", and women were drawn to it. A third was a cool guy and played guitar. Yes, girls wanted not only to see a movie with these guys, but also have sex with them. And they did!! But whatever, this isnt about me and my wife and friends, anyone in society knows that people are attracted to different types. Yes there are studies that show that certain types are universally attractive - symmetrical face etc. But dude, what you are mistaken about is that it does mean these are the ONLY physically attractive types!! Almost everyone will agree that Johnny Depp is good looking, and indeed he has the "universally attractive" traits. But Adrien Brody, with his nose and mannerisms? You're going to get a variety of opinon. I've been in plenty of conversations with girls where one thought a guy was great looking and another thought him hideous. Have you never had a girlfriend, or a girl friend, who thought that one of your friends who is popular with girls is unattractive?! You think that's impossible, and it's not even up for debate? The studies that show that there are universally attractive traits do not in any way mean or imply that they are the ONLY traits that ALL WOMEN are attracted to.
    You're just wrong, and confused. There are some people, yes, that almost everyone will say are good looking, but then there will be a variety of opinion about most of the rest. (do you remember the old website, "hot or not"? This is what it was based on. Do you think every dude was either rated a 10 or a 0?! No... NOO.... girls debate all the time about what guys are good looking or not, just like guys. Again, I'm not talking about Depp and other symmetrically perfect etc. people, but the rest). Get to know women better. :)

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    Guys with shaved heads are hot to some girls? [Citation needed].

    You know what I'm sure of? Guys with hair (provided they have good facial features) are hot to all girls.

    I don't care about talking to girls. They will lie and try to be politically correct anyway.

    Have you ever heard of the saying: "Don't listen to what girls say, watch what they do."

    For that matter, how many times have I had this discussion with a girl:

    - Do you find bald men attractive and would you date them?"
    - Sure! If they are confident, make me laugh and shave it off of course!
    - How many bald men have you dated in your life?
    - Errr, none.
    - Alright then *rolling my eyes*

    Of course some women will have weird fetishes, my girlfriend gets wet over my ears for example.

    Do you know many other girls who have told you they have an ear fetish? This is as rare as the bald men fetish.

    Sure they were deep and philosophical and women were "drawn" to him.

    But for the hundredth time, unless you have recorded hidden camera footage, that doesn't mean these girls have f-cked him.

    This is just a false positive: "I've seen him surrounded by hot girls who were laughing! That must mean he had sex with them all!"

    Type only applies to facial structure as studies have shown. Look at the couples you know and you'll see they often share physical similarities.

    Here: http://atta.labb.usb.ve/Klaus/art157.pdf

    You don't seem to be able to differentiate short-term and long-term mating. For short-term mating (it goes beyond one night stands): looks. That's all.

    For long-term mating (relationships or the girl strategically taking advantage of a man's resources): personality, humor, confidence, money, status etc.

    Therefore, girls will never be truly attracted to bald men on a primal level. All girls who are with bald men are making a compromise.
     
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    June 25, 2009

    Hot or not? Men agree on the answer. Women not so much.
    There is much more consensus among men about whom they find attractive than there is among women, according to a new study by Wake Forest University psychologist Dustin Wood.
    The study, co-authored by Claudia Brumbaugh of Queens College, appears in the June issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.
    “Men agree a lot more about who they find attractive and unattractive than women agree about who they find attractive and unattractive,” says Wood, assistant professor of psychology. “This study shows we can quantify the extent to which men agree about which women are attractive and vice versa.”
    More than 4,000 participants in the study rated photographs of men and women (ages 18-25) for attractiveness on a 10-point scale ranging from “not at all” to “very.” In exchange for their participation, raters were told what characteristics they found attractive compared with the average person. The raters ranged in age from 18 to more than 70.
    Before the participants judged the photographs for attractiveness, the members of the research team rated the images for how seductive, confident, thin, sensitive, stylish, curvaceous (women), muscular (men), traditional, masculine/feminine, classy, well-groomed, or upbeat the people looked.
    Breaking out these factors helped the researchers figure out what common characteristics appealed most to women and men.
    Men’s judgments of women’s attractiveness were based primarily around physical features and they rated highly those who looked thin and seductive. Most of the men in the study also rated photographs of women who looked confident as more attractive.
    As a group, the women rating men showed some preference for thin, muscular subjects, but disagreed on how attractive many men in the study were. Some women gave high attractiveness ratings to the men other women said were not attractive at all.
    “As far as we know, this is the first study to investigate whether there are differences in the level of consensus male and female raters have in their attractiveness judgments,” Wood says. “These differences have implications for the different experiences and strategies that could be expected for men and women in the dating marketplace.”
    For example, women may encounter less competition from other women for the men they find attractive, he says. Men may need to invest more time and energy in attracting and then guarding their mates from other potential suitors, given that the mates they judge attractive are likely to be found attractive by many other men.
    Wood says the study results have implications for eating disorders and how expectations regarding attractiveness affect behavior.
    “The study helps explain why women experience stronger norms than men to obtain or maintain certain physical characteristics,” he says. “Women who are trying to impress men are likely to be found much more attractive if they meet certain physical standards, and much less if they don’t. Although men are rated as more attractive by women when they meet these physical appearance standards too, their overall judged attractiveness isn’t as tightly linked to their physical features.”[/TD]
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    Exactly what I said, exactly the opposite of what you said. Which is a good thing, not a bad thing!
     

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