Folligraft 3.1

[younggunz177]

Just seeing if anyone else has done some research on this. I did a search on the forums and didn't come up with anything. It is a procedure that attaches hair directly to the scalp (not with a thin "membrane" thing). It also is done with as little as 14 hairs per graft (i know, sounds like a lot to me too). Anyone else done research on it?

 

[younggunz177]

I believe there is the same procedure done called veralex 2.0. Anyone?

 

[ToupMaster]

Verilux, Folligraft.... Yep, they are a form of HairSystem... Unit, Piece, whatever.... Sorry but they are Marketing terms

Both are Great systems if they are designed and cut in by someone who knows what they are doing..... But they cost alot because of the Marketing and Salesperson who gets you to buy.

If you can find a independant specialist who isn't out to rip ya off they can fit you with a similuar unit at a fair price.

Both the Verilux and Folligraft Marketing plans demand a exclusive market be purchased by the Vendor... this of course makes us charge you more for these brand names.

 

[younggunz177]

It seems that unlike a wig or hair piece, this is done strand by strand and done directly to the scalp. It seems like a great idea. Does anyone know if you have to continue seeing the person that applied it like you do with something like Hair Club for Men. I mean, if you are the type that just uses a clippers, it wouldn't seem that you would need a professional to do your hair. And they claim that it never falls out, so why would you have to go back more then maybe once or twice a year for a touch up. I have asked for information on Folligraft 3.1 from a few places in hopes of getting a few answers.

The part that gets me upset though, is that it is like Men's Hair Club, where they don't give you a lot of information until you ask.

 

[ToupMaster]

Strand by strand Yea... but in all cases the strands are attached to a membrane or mesh and then attached directly to your scalp. They need to be redone regularly... Your skin sheds every 21 days or so.. so there is NO way of attaching something to the scalp that is going to hold forever. I can believe they claim it never falls out... I think your reading it the way you wish it to appear and I'm sure if you check the wording carefuly, it is not what they actualy say.

 

[younggunz177]

"Folligraft 3.1 is a hair graft, not a hair system. The grafts are applied directly to the scalp, non-surgically, through a chemically-induced ionization process. The hair systems you’ve seen on TV do NOT attach hair directly to the scalp."

"The hair is grafted to the scalp, in increments as small as 14 hairs per graft."

It says there is no membrane between the scalp and hair. I'll see if I get more information before being asked to "just come in for a consultation". I gotta think though, how could the hairline look good if you have to have at least 14 hairs per graft? Let me know what you think of this wording they give.

 

[younggunz177]

Oh, one more thing. Does anyone know around the price that this sort of hair system goes for?

 

[hairwegoagain]

".... through a chemically-induced ionization process.

For the laymen out there, glue.

 

[ToupMaster]

Oh, one more thing. Does anyone know around the price that this sort of hair system goes for?

It goes for whatever the market will bear.

Do yourself a favor, go to the interview, ask them, listen to them..... But promise me you will sign NOTHING and PAY not even a dollar. Go home.. think about it and go back and question again... Sign nothing pay nothing till maybe the 3rd visit... cause if you ain't wised up by then... you never will be.

 

[The Gardener]

ToupMaster, I wish I had your sage advice back in the day when I was shopping for systems. Good stuff to know.

Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.

 

[younggunz177]

No offense, but I don't need a lecture about jumping into something without any knowledge of it. What do you think I'm doing here? I'm an adult and am not about to jump into something blindly, but am simply trying to get more information about this system. If you don't have information about it, no need to comment. The general information towards avoiding it like a scam is not information to me. Thanks though.

 

[Shinyscalp23]

go for it!

dont be fooled by all these bullshit fancy names-veralex , cyberhair and so on...its all the same sh*t they glue a wig on your head-a very damn good looking one though..those fancy names are just names-advertising gimmicks...i just got my "veralex" done almost 2 months ago...changing the tape on the hairline is a pain in the ***-it could take 20-30 mins out of your time every 3-4 days and for me i dont think the hair line looks real...however i wear my hair down and the way the hair falls looks extremely natural..unless i were to wear my hair up---NO ONE would be able to tell im wearing a toupee-the fact that i have to wear it down is a shortfall but it beats not having enough hair to wear up anyway---to me its worth the money--im only 24 years old why should i walk around balding---my piece costs me 950 $ which is expensive but not nearly as much as hair club and im on a plan of 179$ a month--to me its definitely worth it as i look 100 times better--at some point ill come to terms with my hair loss but for now im very greatful i got a good looking toupee and it looks awesome and feels good to be i.d.'ed for cigarettes and booze again since im only 24--it has its down points--for example its not the cleanest or most sanitary route for your scalp and the glue does pull your existing hair out and you sort of have to wear one after you get it done but still its well worth it. My piece is lace in the front with a skin back...another thing...i dotn even give a sh*t who knows thats how good it looks to me if it looks that good then who cares but if it didnt look real... if it looked like a bad toupee then id care...everyone at my job knows, my lover knows, and i even tell strangers (especially when others are telling me Im so cute or hot or whatever. And everyone I know says i look a hell of alot younger and better though not everyone thinks i shouldve gotten it. some people couldnt even believe the hair didnt grow out of my head. There is absolutely NO shame in wearing a hair system and just think of how many guys who have full heads of hair out there would wear one if they were losing their own hair-as far as im concerned it beats a transplant which might fail and leave scaring and the results are immediate-no more waiting for results(which all of us minoxidil and propecia users know about...for quite a few months there the minoxidil/retin-a did a good job for me but int he past 3 months or so it all just started falling out again...i was like f*** this, its time to put my hair problems to a rest and start enjoying my life. hair isnt the solution to your problems, but if a lack of it continuously bothers you then go get the piece already dammit! Now i just do my hair in the morning and not try to conceal my hair loss with some frutiless attempt at combing or spiking it in a certain way or have my scalp burn from retin-a or take a milllion msm pills and so on..im probably being ripped off but the place i went to is much cheaper than hair club for men--its called adrians hair loss center for those of you who live in the fort lauderdale area and trust me--its worth signing up with a place if youre a beginner---im not saying ill stay with this place forever but for now its good since im just learning how to maintaint he system

 

[ToupMaster]

Re:

No offense, but I don't need a lecture about jumping into something without any knowledge of it. What do you think I'm doing here? I'm an adult and am not about to jump into something blindly, but am simply trying to get more information about this system. If you don't have information about it, no need to comment. The general information towards avoiding it like a scam is not information to me. Thanks though.

I do have information, but you don't like the information or the words that I put down before you. You prefer to believe the words you see in the advertisments and those used by the silver tongued salespeople selling you the product. I have been doing hair for 45 hears and doing Hair Replacement since 1977, I sell this sh*t, I've heard all the hype, I've handled the product, but then possibly you know more.

Come back and read my words again after you've spent your $$$ and had the wonderful forever graft attached to your head.

 

[CCS]

Re: Re:

No offense, but I don't need a lecture about jumping into something without any knowledge of it. What do you think I'm doing here? I'm an adult and am not about to jump into something blindly, but am simply trying to get more information about this system. If you don't have information about it, no need to comment. The general information towards avoiding it like a scam is not information to me. Thanks though.

I do have information, but you don't like the information or the words that I put down before you. You prefer to believe the words you see in the advertisments and those used by the silver tongued salespeople selling you the product. I have been doing hair for 45 hears and doing Hair Replacement since 1977, I sell this $#iT, I've heard all the hype, I've handled the product, but then possibly you know more.

Come back and read my words again after you've spent your $$$ and had the wonderful forever graft attached to your head.

If they have to do at least 14 hairs together, how are are they attached? They must be attached if they come together. No glue will work pin point, and if it is not surgical, then they don't hook it into the skin either. Sounds like they just glue it on in pieces, but it will look a lot more corn row than a lace piece.

I want a piece, but I don't have the money now. If I had $1000 to burn, I'd get one and take good care of it and color it when it fades. Do pieces start to stink? I know my watch would stink when I used to wear one. So did my bike helmet.

 

[CCS]

If I had to do over again, I'd get many lace pieces, with temples, instead of these hair grafts. I'd save money too. I'd still do propecia and nizoral though. I'd just glue down the edges, and not the top, unless I was going on a date that night. It would be my getto baseball cap.

 

[ToupMaster]

Re: Re:

If they have to do at least 14 hairs together, how are are they attached? They must be attached if they come together. No glue will work pin point, and if it is not surgical, then they don't hook it into the skin either. Sounds like they just glue it on in pieces, but it will look a lot more corn row than a lace piece.

I want a piece, but I don't have the money now. If I had $1000 to burn, I'd get one and take good care of it and color it when it fades. Do pieces start to stink? I know my watch would stink when I used to wear one. So did my bike helmet.

amazing.....

what all will you believe

PS: if something stinks, you might want to clean it.

 

[CCS]

I don't know what you are getting upset about. I was pointing out that if 14 is the smallest increment, then the 14 hairs must be attached to each other. That means there is a base, and these guys are just gluing a toupee on. They are not attaching individual hairs, or they would not use groups of 14.

BTW, if they are individuals, glued just at the tip to the skin, they could come off easily, though maybe with some flesh attached.

I know I'm speculating here, but I'm speculation the folligraft 3.1 is not as good as they say it is, which is what you were saying. Just surprised you got upset at that. I was not putting down toupees in general.

 

[ToupMaster]

I don't know what you are getting upset about. I was pointing out that if 14 is the smallest increment, then the 14 hairs must be attached to each other. That means there is a base, and these guys are just gluing a toupee on. They are not attaching individual hairs, or they would not use groups of 14.

BTW, if they are individuals, glued just at the tip to the skin, they could come off easily, though maybe with some flesh attached.

I know I'm speculating here, but I'm speculation the folligraft 3.1 is not as good as they say it is, which is what you were saying. Just surprised you got upset at that. I was not putting down toupees in general.

I am only upset at how gullable you seem to be.
1. I sell Folligraft units The newest unit in the Folligraft line is folligraft 3.1
2. 14 hairs in a group would look like a giant plug
3. As explained before in this string... Folligraft is a graft, hairsystem or Toupe.
4. If it is the mesh base Folligraft, then yes, the hair would touch the scalp where it pass' thru and under the mesh.

Quit trying to blend in with the 19 year olds, finish your studies and hang with your own age crowd ... Your hair looks fine.

 

[ToupMaster]

Re:

ToupMaster, I wish I had your sage advice back in the day when I was shopping for systems. Good stuff to know.

Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.

Yea, but only those who have been thru it already are willing to listen and believe.
Those who are newbies don't like what I have to say, it is not what they wish to hear.
They prefer to believe the words within the advertisments, the words spilled from the Salesmans mouth, the words that are written to cure their fears and open their wallet.

 

[sean66]

Re: go for it!

dont be fooled by all these bullshit fancy names-veralex , cyberhair and so on...its all the same $#iT they glue a wig on your head-a very damn good looking one though..those fancy names are just names-advertising gimmicks...i just got my "veralex" done almost 2 months ago...changing the tape on the hairline is a pain in the ***-it could take 20-30 mins out of your time every 3-4 days and for me i dont think the hair line looks real...however i wear my hair down and the way the hair falls looks extremely natural..unless i were to wear my hair up---NO ONE would be able to tell im wearing a toupee-the fact that i have to wear it down is a shortfall but it beats not having enough hair to wear up anyway---to me its worth the money--im only 24 years old why should i walk around balding---my piece costs me 950 $ which is expensive but not nearly as much as hair club and im on a plan of 179$ a month--to me its definitely worth it as i look 100 times better--at some point ill come to terms with my hair loss but for now im very greatful i got a good looking toupee and it looks awesome and feels good to be i.d.'ed for cigarettes and booze again since im only 24--it has its down points--for example its not the cleanest or most sanitary route for your scalp and the glue does pull your existing hair out and you sort of have to wear one after you get it done but still its well worth it. My piece is lace in the front with a skin back...another thing...i dotn even give a $#iT who knows thats how good it looks to me if it looks that good then who cares but if it didnt look real... if it looked like a bad toupee then id care...everyone at my job knows, my lover knows, and i even tell strangers (especially when others are telling me Im so cute or hot or whatever. And everyone I know says i look a hell of alot younger and better though not everyone thinks i shouldve gotten it. some people couldnt even believe the hair didnt grow out of my head. There is absolutely NO shame in wearing a hair system and just think of how many guys who have full heads of hair out there would wear one if they were losing their own hair-as far as im concerned it beats a transplant which might fail and leave scaring and the results are immediate-no more waiting for results(which all of us minoxidil and propecia users know about...for quite a few months there the minoxidil/retin-a did a good job for me but int he past 3 months or so it all just started falling out again...i was like f*** this, its time to put my hair problems to a rest and start enjoying my life. hair isnt the solution to your problems, but if a lack of it continuously bothers you then go get the piece already dammit! Now i just do my hair in the morning and not try to conceal my hair loss with some frutiless attempt at combing or spiking it in a certain way or have my scalp burn from retin-a or take a milllion msm pills and so on..im probably being ripped off but the place i went to is much cheaper than hair club for men--its called adrians hair loss center for those of you who live in the fort lauderdale area and trust me--its worth signing up with a place if youre a beginner---im not saying ill stay with this place forever but for now its good since im just learning how to maintaint he system

exactly..

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here is the linc... good stuff.. forget the fancy names and bs to charge more... fyi, i tried toplace,coolpiece,hollywood, atsoff, maxgayer, and about 5 others... :firing:


this is home.. for now...

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