Brotzu Lotion - Home Made Version (tutorial - Faq)

Bitless

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I think you can ship it in dry ice and just immediately put it in the fridge. Obviously only buy one month at a time. Help us get all the ingredients sorted out and the more the merrier :D
For sure and I was actually looking for someone to make lotion in my country. I should organize people
 

Arrade

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For sure and I was actually looking for someone to make lotion in my country. I should organize people
It's probably cheapest and most efficient if one guy does it. We have to group buy the equol and what not just to make it affordable.
 

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Stearylamine - hard to find, let me know if you have a good source (should be humangrade btw)

The chemical name for Stearylamine is Octadecylamine. Here are a couple of links to buy it:
https://www.mpbio.com/product.php?pid=02195508
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/305391?lang=en&region=US

But reading the MSDS I'm a bit concerned about handling it:
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925093
https://www.nwmissouri.edu/naturalsciences/sds/o/Octadecylamine.pdf

L-Propionylcarnitine can also be found here: https://www.caymanchem.com/product/9001873. But read the note about the shipping condition. Also, both Dihomo-γ-Linolenic Acid and L-Propionylcarnitine must be stored at -20C.

The sonicator used in the patent is SONIPREP 150 ULTRASONIC DISINTEGRATOR which is sold on eBay for $700. However, we don't need to use this one exatly. In the patent it's stated that the compound is placed inside the solicitor and submitted to 25 sonication cycles. Each cycle is composed of 5 seconds of full power sonication alternating with 2 seconds of rest. There is not mention of frequency and amplitude settings. I think maybe we can find the max settings possible on SONIPREP 150 to find out about the frequency and amplitude. Also, they use PCS and TEM to characterize the liposome. Unforttnately, I don't live in the city that I did my gradaute studies otherwise I could use thier TEM.

To avoid stability issue I think we should make small batches (i.e. supply for one month at a time).
 

Ollie

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Can anyone find a good DGLA supplier ? The one listed doesn't have any when i specify my country (UK).
 

Arrade

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Lol dude why are you so obsessed with the ~Italian Hair Loss Lotion~ when you aren’t even significantly bald?! How much time did you spend outside this beautiful Spring day? :p
I worked outside, I'll probably get drunk and see fireworks with friends tomorrow.
I'm super vain, I feel off without a perfect head of hair. This lotion is the only thing without sides, so it seems. Preciate the concern homie
 

hanginginthewire

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I worked outside, I'll probably get drunk and see fireworks with friends tomorrow.
I'm super vain, I feel off without a perfect head of hair. This lotion is the only thing without sides, so it seems. Preciate the concern homie

You’re welcome buddy!

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whatevr

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@whatevr do you have a trusted source on alibaba for S,R-Equol?

I don't know yet. IdealForehead and I bought from the same location but until either one of us gets it and tests it (he will probably get his sooner) we won't know how legit the product is.
 

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The chemical name for Stearylamine is Octadecylamine. Here are a couple of links to buy it:
https://www.mpbio.com/product.php?pid=02195508
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/305391?lang=en&region=US

But reading the MSDS I'm a bit concerned about handling it:
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925093
https://www.nwmissouri.edu/naturalsciences/sds/o/Octadecylamine.pdf

L-Propionylcarnitine can also be found here: https://www.caymanchem.com/product/9001873. But read the note about the shipping condition. Also, both Dihomo-γ-Linolenic Acid and L-Propionylcarnitine must be stored at -20C.

The sonicator used in the patent is SONIPREP 150 ULTRASONIC DISINTEGRATOR which is sold on eBay for $700. However, we don't need to use this one exatly. In the patent it's stated that the compound is placed inside the solicitor and submitted to 25 sonication cycles. Each cycle is composed of 5 seconds of full power sonication alternating with 2 seconds of rest. There is not mention of frequency and amplitude settings. I think maybe we can find the max settings possible on SONIPREP 150 to find out about the frequency and amplitude. Also, they use PCS and TEM to characterize the liposome. Unforttnately, I don't live in the city that I did my gradaute studies otherwise I could use thier TEM.

To avoid stability issue I think we should make small batches (i.e. supply for one month at a time).

thank you so much for the time you spend in this proejct.
 

ALightInTheDark

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So just take some times off this forum
Came back and found this
Amazing progress guys next tutorial is Histogen ?
For fucks sake.
 

CureOrDeath

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The chemical name for Stearylamine is Octadecylamine. Here are a couple of links to buy it:
https://www.mpbio.com/product.php?pid=02195508
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/305391?lang=en&region=US

But reading the MSDS I'm a bit concerned about handling it:
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925093
https://www.nwmissouri.edu/naturalsciences/sds/o/Octadecylamine.pdf

L-Propionylcarnitine can also be found here: https://www.caymanchem.com/product/9001873. But read the note about the shipping condition. Also, both Dihomo-γ-Linolenic Acid and L-Propionylcarnitine must be stored at -20C.

The sonicator used in the patent is SONIPREP 150 ULTRASONIC DISINTEGRATOR which is sold on eBay for $700. However, we don't need to use this one exatly. In the patent it's stated that the compound is placed inside the solicitor and submitted to 25 sonication cycles. Each cycle is composed of 5 seconds of full power sonication alternating with 2 seconds of rest. There is not mention of frequency and amplitude settings. I think maybe we can find the max settings possible on SONIPREP 150 to find out about the frequency and amplitude. Also, they use PCS and TEM to characterize the liposome. Unforttnately, I don't live in the city that I did my gradaute studies otherwise I could use thier TEM.

To avoid stability issue I think we should make small batches (i.e. supply for one month at a time).
I was concerned about the purity of Stearylamine that was under 98%, the second link has a purity of 90% I think it's not ideal.
Yeah they used a soniprep 150, as you said soniprep and not sonipress there's another error here, which is a tip sonicator, it can deliver a much higher power but it'is not ideal, cause it leaves some titanium particles in the preparation. We are using a bath sonicator which needs higher runnig time because the delivered energy is thousand times lower.
The use of a TEM or DLS machine would have been great to check the results.

btw @username1 are you a chem, biochem, etc student?

Little update: I'm trying to improve the sonication process, first thing 100m are too long for a so small sample, 30-40 should be good.
 

alebaba

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You think its possible we get kane to do this sh*t, it shouldn't be hard for him to get it done, I think. Just have to get enough people to be interested in it for it to be worth his wild. Maybe some one will be able to make a video tutorial on how to make the lotion.
 
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