Best treatment on the market

[frankk]

What is the safest and at the same time the most effective DHT blockers (not hair growth stimulation products, but only DHT blocker) that is available on the market? (reports, articles, people's reviews. all different kinds of evidence)
I am looking for safety first, so in other words, I would have the most effective of all safe with minimal side effects.
Thank you!

 

[frankk]

Is there no one who can be kind and help me?

 

[Rawtashk]

There is no medication in the entire world that has a 0% chance of side effects. Hell, there's almost NOTHING in your daily life that doesn't have any risk involved! The question is, how much risk is acceptable risk TO YOU. No one else can decide that for you.

Let's say that tomorrow there's a hairloss drug that has a 90% chance of restoring your hair to NW1, and would keep it there for as long as you take it. However...there's also a 75% chance that you lose all ability to taste for as long as you're taking this medication. I GUARANTEE YOU that people would still take that risk.

The real answer to your question is to try out "The Big 3"

1: finasteride. Yes, there is a potential for sides. HOWEVER, that is limited to about 2-5% of people. AND, about 90% of those people that get sides will recover completely when they stop. You basically have about a 1-5000 chance (or greater) of the sides hanging around long-term. There's also about a 8.5-10 chance that you will at LEAST maintain what hair you currently have.

2: Rogaine (minoxidil). Yes, it too has a potential for sides. Again, they go away almost 100% of the time once you stop. The side effects aren't as potentiall large as finasteride, but you also aren't blocking the DHT, you are just stimulating your live follicles to grow. DHT will still attack the follicles until they are dead.

3: Nizoral shampoo (or any other shampoo with 1-2% ketoconazole in it). Ketoconazole has been shown to be a mild topical anti-androgen, and it helps to use it in conjunction with other methods. HOWEVER, do not expect this shampoo alone to work wonders if you use it by itself (if at all).

 

[abcdefg]

Unfortunately for all of us you have to choose between safety and effectiveness right now. Only 2 treatments work propecia and rogaine. Propecia is the best proven treatment right now, but it has possible safety issues especially long term where its impossible to say its completely safe. So the truly safe treatments are generally all topicals but none are proven to do anything, expensive, and a pain in the butt to apply. So its picking between bad and worse in terms of treatments.

 

[frankk]

Thanks both of the posts.
What I meant was not that I would have reached that is completely risk free, but something that has very low chance of side effects and who is also a good and popular treatment. Have read a lot about different treatments, but have a hard time deciding. (Finasteride, minoxidil, ketoconazole, fluridil, spironolactone, revivogen, tricomin, hair laser, RU58841, bimatoprost etc etc).
Are so many different varieties, the more you read about the more difficult it becomes. Therefore, I created this thread to get help from as many as possible of the va they think based on what I want.

Speaking of finasteride as I would rather find some other type of treatment even if there is extremely little chance of getting side effects from it. Personally I think they are too serious that I would prefer to find alternatives that are safer.

Minoxidil is also one really nasty side effect is that you can get wrinkles, dark circles around the eyes and even enlarged pores. Do not know how likely it is that you get these side effects of it.

More answers from you and others would be appreciated very much.
Thank you very much!

 

[Bryan]

What is the safest and at the same time the most effective DHT blockers (not hair growth stimulation products, but only DHT blocker) that is available on the market?

I'm not sure what it is you're asking, since you're mentioning one thing in the title of this thread ("Best treatment on the market"), and asking another question above ("What is...the most effective DHT blocker...?"). I'm not completely sure what you mean by "DHT blocker", either, but I imagine what you really mean in the sentence above is 5a-reductase inhibitor. There are only a couple of easily available oral drugs which do that: finasteride and dutasteride. Dutasteride does that more completely and more effectively than finasteride, although it's not FDA-approved to fight hair loss. Finasteride _is_ FDA-approved for that. A product called Revivogen is a 5a-reductase inhibitor whan applied topically to the scalp, but its use is contentious and controversial on hairloss forums. Nobody really has any clear idea of just how effective it is, overall.

And to answer the question you ask in the subject of this thread: Proxiphen is probably the best overall treatment on the market, although it's expensive.

 

[frankk]

What is the safest and at the same time the most effective DHT blockers (not hair growth stimulation products, but only DHT blocker) that is available on the market?

I'm not sure what it is you're asking, since you're mentioning one thing in the title of this thread ("Best treatment on the market"), and asking another question above ("What is...the most effective DHT blocker...?"). I'm not completely sure what you mean by "DHT blocker", either, but I imagine what you really mean in the sentence above is 5a-reductase inhibitor. There are only a couple of easily available oral drugs which do that: finasteride and dutasteride. Dutasteride does that more completely and more effectively than finasteride, although it's not FDA-approved to fight hair loss. Finasteride _is_ FDA-approved for that. A product called Revivogen is a 5a-reductase inhibitor whan applied topically to the scalp, but its use is contentious and controversial on hairloss forums. Nobody really has any clear idea of just how effective it is, overall.

And to answer the question you ask in the subject of this thread: Proxiphen is probably the best overall treatment on the market, although it's expensive.

Hey Bryan!
"5a-reductase inhibitor" is what i meant when i wrote DHT blocker. I'm pretty new to this subject, that is why it was a bit wrong hehe. This finasteride has some scary side effects, do you know if these side effects can be permanent?

Revivogen is a product that I would have liked to try because it seems safe. However it will not find much about it at various forums and websites. It appears to have been around a long time and yet the lack of information on Whether the works or not. However, it is recommended course site itself hairloss talk about this product. They have also put up various studies on it.

Have not heard of Proxiphen. I should take and look around a little bit about it. Do you know any good site where i can read more about it, and if it's possibly reaching studies made ??on Proxiphen.
Also, it would be interesting to know what types of treatment you use.
Thank you Bryan!

 

[Jacob]

What is the safest and at the same time the most effective DHT blockers (not hair growth stimulation products, but only DHT blocker) that is available on the market?

I'm not sure what it is you're asking, since you're mentioning one thing in the title of this thread ("Best treatment on the market"), and asking another question above ("What is...the most effective DHT blocker...?"). I'm not completely sure what you mean by "DHT blocker", either, but I imagine what you really mean in the sentence above is 5a-reductase inhibitor. There are only a couple of easily available oral drugs which do that: finasteride and dutasteride. Dutasteride does that more completely and more effectively than finasteride, although it's not FDA-approved to fight hair loss. Finasteride _is_ FDA-approved for that. A product called Revivogen is a 5a-reductase inhibitor whan applied topically to the scalp, but its use is contentious and controversial on hairloss forums. Nobody really has any clear idea of just how effective it is, overall.

And to answer the question you ask in the subject of this thread: Proxiphen is probably the best overall treatment on the market, although it's expensive.

Why is somebody.. for 20+ years...allowed to shill/spam this Prox crap?

 

[frankk]

Why is somebody.. for 20+ years...allowed to shill/spam this Prox crap?

What do you recommend Jacob?

Please be Frank!

What do you mean by that?

 

[rwhairlosstalk]

What is the safest and at the same time the most effective DHT blockers (not hair growth stimulation products, but only DHT blocker) that is available on the market?

I'm not sure what it is you're asking, since you're mentioning one thing in the title of this thread ("Best treatment on the market"), and asking another question above ("What is...the most effective DHT blocker...?"). I'm not completely sure what you mean by "DHT blocker", either, but I imagine what you really mean in the sentence above is 5a-reductase inhibitor. There are only a couple of easily available oral drugs which do that: finasteride and dutasteride. Dutasteride does that more completely and more effectively than finasteride, although it's not FDA-approved to fight hair loss. Finasteride _is_ FDA-approved for that. A product called Revivogen is a 5a-reductase inhibitor whan applied topically to the scalp, but its use is contentious and controversial on hairloss forums. Nobody really has any clear idea of just how effective it is, overall.

And to answer the question you ask in the subject of this thread: Proxiphen is probably the best overall treatment on the market, although it's expensive.

Bryan,
Proxiphen I've just researched and thank GOD it comes in a cream as I can't handle alcohol on my scalp or in my hair and I'm losing hair with no regrowth topical.

Do you know how to get this???

 

[Bryan]

Hey Bryan!
"5a-reductase inhibitor" is what i meant when i wrote DHT blocker. I'm pretty new to this subject, that is why it was a bit wrong hehe. This finasteride has some scary side effects, do you know if these side effects can be permanent?

I'm not sure about that. All I know about that is what I read on hairloss sites like this.

Revivogen is a product that I would have liked to try because it seems safe. However it will not find much about it at various forums and websites. It appears to have been around a long time and yet the lack of information on Whether the works or not. However, it is recommended course site itself hairloss talk about this product. They have also put up various studies on it.

I don't think any studies on the product called "Revivogen" have ever been done, except for a well-publicized test done by an independent company a few years ago which _did_ seem to show that it was able to reduce the production of DHT where physically applied. It didn't actually measure any regrown scalp hair, but I suppose measuring the suppression of DHT is the next best thing.

There are indeed studies from medical journals, of course, showing that certain important ingredients of Revivogen (certain specific fatty acids) are capable of inhibiting 5a-reductase.

Have not heard of Proxiphen. I should take and look around a little bit about it. Do you know any good site where i can read more about it, and if it's possibly reaching studies made ??on Proxiphen.
Also, it would be interesting to know what types of treatment you use.
Thank you Bryan!

Proxiphen is a sophisticated product designed by Peter Proctor PhD, MD. It contains numerous drugs (probably more than a dozen), which attack the balding problem in several different ways. It's applied as a topical cream once a day; it contains very familiar drugs like spironolactone and minoxidil, but also contains some less-familiar things like phenytoin, TEMPO/TEMPOL, PBN, and copper-peptides. You can read all about it by looking at http://www.drproctor.com. I don't know of any "studies" that have been done on Proxiphen itself, but Dr. Proctor has been looking at its effect for about the last two or three decades, and has done a HUGE amount of original research on it.

Proxiphen requires a doctor's prescription because of the drugs it contains, but a cheaper, non-prescription OTC version called "Prox-N" is also available. I personally used Prox-N exclusively for two full years back from 1995 to 1997, and had pretty good success with it by halting any further balding, and thickening my baldspot a bit. I don't use any treatments currently.

 

[Bryan]

Why is somebody.. for 20+ years...allowed to shill/spam this Prox crap?

This isn't your personal Web site for fighting balding. You don't get to call the shots by limiting what other people can say. Better get used to it.

 

[Bryan]

Bryan,
Proxiphen I've just researched and thank GOD it comes in a cream as I can't handle alcohol on my scalp or in my hair and I'm losing hair with no regrowth topical.

Do you know how to get this???

Call Dr. Proctor at the number at his site (http://www.drproctor.com), and see what he suggests for you to do.

 

[hairhoper]

finasteride and minoxidil are your best chance.

You may want to avoid using finasteride, but fact is you need to block DHT to stop the balding process.

The only other serious option with a chance of working on the DHT front is RU 58841. Ordering and preparing that is an expensive, risky & involved process but if you're desperate to avoid finasteride and don't want to lose all your hair you should look into it.

 

[Jacob]

Why is somebody.. for 20+ years...allowed to shill/spam this Prox crap?

This isn't your personal Web site for fighting balding. You don't get to call the shots by limiting what other people can say. Better get used to it.

Oh..I'm used to it. You've been pushing Proctor's crap pretty much exclusively for, as you say- 20+ years. And I will continue to point out your spamming every time you mention it. .

There are no studies on this concoction that Dr P claims "grows significantly more hair on more people than any other agent" Not one. It's made up B.S. Something a snake-oil salesman would say. I love your "probably more than a dozen"...are you saying we don't know? Are we back to the "mysterious ingredients" that both you and Proctor have mentioned to try to get folks excited?

BTW..my question there wasn't even for you. Looks like you think this is YOUR personal "Web site".