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    Senior Member saintsfan92344's Avatar
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    dermarolling since 11/6/13 1x week 1.5mm 192needle till I bleed out of most holes, not dripping though, just spots
    minox 5% 1x day
    nizoral 3x week
    2% miconozol nitrate 2x week, looking for 4%
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    Quote Originally Posted by thinlid View Post
    I just finished my first roll with a 192 1.5mm.
    I was pushing as hard as I could and went over the thin area around 4times.
    I dont nearly have as much blood as others.

    Should I get a roller with longer needles or is this normal?Attachment 22745Attachment 22746


    and how long after rolling does everyone wash their hair?


    1.5 is what most use, every roll I bleed a little easier, its painfull but the concensus is roll hard or go home

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    ....OK..on another note...

    ...has ANYONE ever applied MINOX to the donor area after a HT?? Talk about the ultimate in wounding --- especially with FUE...

    ...could this work?? squeeg'??

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    dermarolling since 11/6/13 1x week 1.5mm 192needle till I bleed out of most holes, not dripping though, just spots
    minox 5% 1x day
    nizoral 3x week
    2% miconozol nitrate 2x week, looking for 4%
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    but just between you and me that's kind of a sissy roll

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan92344 View Post
    but just between you and me that's kind of a sissy roll
    hahaha.
    Hopefully next week gets easier lol
    Dont want the wife to see me crying again

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    dermarolling since 11/6/13 1x week 1.5mm 192needle till I bleed out of most holes, not dripping though, just spots
    minox 5% 1x day
    nizoral 3x week
    2% miconozol nitrate 2x week, looking for 4%
    onion
    Quote Originally Posted by thinlid View Post
    hahaha.
    Hopefully next week gets easier lol
    Dont want the wife to see me crying again
    Beer helps lot, I was semi hammered before last roll, but you will bleed more each time, my first couple I didn't bleed much, but 2young made me feel like a sissy after I saw his pics so I am just helping a brotha out

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinlid View Post
    I just finished my first roll with a 192 1.5mm.
    I was pushing as hard as I could and went over the thin area around 4times.
    I dont nearly have as much blood as others.

    Should I get a roller with longer needles or is this normal?Attachment 22745Attachment 22746


    and how long after rolling does everyone wash their hair?
    The first roll I barley had any blood. This second roll I had much more. I feel the third will have more than that.
    I really get in there.
    Even my gf got in there and we were fighting earlier in the day so she was really being rough and that was still a limited bleed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinlid View Post
    I just finished my first roll with a 192 1.5mm.
    I was pushing as hard as I could and went over the thin area around 4times.
    I dont nearly have as much blood as others.

    Should I get a roller with longer needles or is this normal?Attachment 22745Attachment 22746


    and how long after rolling does everyone wash their hair?
    Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan92344 View Post
    Beer helps lot, I was semi hammered before last roll, but you will bleed more each time, my first couple I didn't bleed much, but 2young made me feel like a sissy after I saw his pics so I am just helping a brotha out
    you know alcohol thins the blood and will just make you bleed easier and faster.

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    dermarolling heavy 192 1.5mm since 20-10-2013 and minox from next day
    bjorn you are good to go
    http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact...NTIAL-CURE-LOG my story ,check pages 1 and 4 for pics.

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    After having read all the positive feedback, I have decided to participate in the rollfest. I wonder though, how long after a hair transplant could you roll over the recipient area without causing any damage? (This in case I accidentally roll over this area when focussing on the area directly behind it)

    By the way, did any of you guys read this email answered by one of the scientists responsible for the study? It was posted by an administrator from some Scandinavian forum.

    Good Day
    Your name was cited in a recent Journal about a pilot study on Microneedling and the positive effects on Androgenic Alopecia.
    Are you the correct person to contact regarding this study?
    Please could you kindly contact me and comment whether you'd be willing to assist with some queries I have?
    Many thanks for your assistance in this regard


    02 August 2013
    Dear Mr. XXXXXXX
    I am the right person, who is responsible for the study.
    We routinely perform microneedling for patients with androgenetic alopecia including women, getting good results.


    Dear Dr YYYYYY
    Thank you very much for getting back to me and confirming you are indeed the correct person.
    I have a few queries on the treatment which maybe you can shed some light on:
    1. Do the results continue improving under the microneedling / Minoxidle regime or is there a limit to the regrowth patients can expect?
    2. Have you treated any patients with this regime whilst they were on Finasteride? How do their results compare?
    3. What level of pain and bleeding should patients expect and could there be potential damage to the hair follicles if the treatment is too vigorous?
    4. Do you treat with Minoxidle immediately after the treatment or follow the studies method of rest for 24 hours? If so, why?
    5 Do you use different length needles for different patients or is there a standard length?
    Thank you very much for your time clarifying these queries. I look forward to hearing back from you.

    Kind Regards
    XXXXXXXXXX


    07 August 2013
    Dear XXXXXX
    Ans
    1. There was further mild improvement after completion of treatment
    2. Now I treat all my patients with finasteride + minoxidil+microneedling + platelet rich plasma. Results are v.good.
    3. very mild pain, one or 2 bleeding spots occasionally.
    4. We ask our patients not to apply minoxidil on the day of procedure
    5. Standard length is 1.5mm for all patients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalio View Post
    After having read all the positive feedback, I have decided to participate in the rollfest. I wonder though, how long after a hair transplant could you roll over the recipient area without causing any damage? (This in case I accidentally roll over this area when focussing on the area directly behind it)

    By the way, did any of you guys read this email answered by one of the scientists responsible for the study? It was posted by an administrator from some Scandinavian forum.

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    Thanks for posting that. So they applied minoxidil the following day and were not rolling anywhere as hard as the people covering their scalps in blood here. Now is this hard/bloody rolling beneficial or detrimental?
    The trouble on these hair loss forums is that people are emotionally involved, and often just want to `believe' that a particular thing offers `hope'. This is why it is often easy for real science to be overlooked in MPB, but in the long term it is only `real' science that will provide the answers! -SFoote
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    @squeegee... What do you think of this?

    Since the dermaroller causes wounding and activates stem cells, we will need some ingredients to build these follicles, hair is made up of 91% amino acids! I found this supplement which is the only one I found containing all 22 amino acids and all fatty acids omega 3, 6, 9 http://www.montanaemuranch.com/vital...-10-oz-powder/

    ive been doing a lot of research and I read a few times that you need all 22 amino acids to create cells or something, do you know anything about that as well?

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