Spiro or fluridil?

[Steven85]

I am 26 years old, been using fin and nizoral for a month. I want to add an anti-androgen to my regimen.

The question is which one?

I hear spiro or fluridil are the best options. Which one would you recommend considering the price, effect, and manageability of the product?

Do you also know a good place to buy it online?

Also considering adding rogaine but seeing as maintaining is most important for me I think an antiandrogen is first priority.

[Tomisthinning]

don't bother. neither spiro or fluridil are proven products. the closes thing you can add is nizoral shampoo once or twice a week. stick with proven produts such as propeci, rogaine, nizoral. I only use propecia and nizoral. things like spiro, fluridil, ru, blah blah blah.




by the way was fluridil approved in europe? what is the ingridient in it that makes it an anti androgen? maybe fluridil was approved in europe but not here in north america

[Steven85]

by the way was fluridil approved in europe? what is the ingridient in it that makes it an anti androgen? maybe fluridil was approved in europe but not here in north america

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Btw, why is the nizoral 2% cream never mentioned in any antiandrogen discussions? Doesnt it have any effect as an aa?

[Tomisthinning]

here they mostly use nizoral shampoo. im sure the cream might benefit as well, but it will be hassle, and make the hair look greasy.

I think even rogaine is a hassle. plus it only might grow weak hairs. there a so many products out there, but stick to proven

the best duo would be propecia and nizoral shampoo in my opinion

[Steven85]

don't bother. neither spiro or fluridil are proven products. the closes thing you can add is nizoral shampoo once or twice a week. stick with proven produts such as propeci, rogaine, nizoral. I only use propecia and nizoral. things like spiro, fluridil, ru, blah blah blah.

the best duo would be propecia and nizoral shampoo in my opinion

You are probably right Tom. I'm just scared I am one of those unlucky ones that won't get the expected results from fin (and niz) as an antiandrogen alone. Therefore I think I should add a topical androgen, hoping that may be the extra little complement I need to be sure to stop my hair loss. Desperate times call for desperate measures, or something like that, right?

[Harry S Truman]

A. Every person is different, people respond and don't respond along with getting sides and not getting sides differently...

B. Spiro def has systemic absorption, it will drop your testosterone levels... Dont believe people when they tell you it doesn't...

C. I am interested in trying fluridil... Maybe its claim to be water soluble will hold up where Spiro doesn't... Anyone have a place where they purchase it ?... or has anyone used http://xtshop.eucapil-shop.eu/index.php?language=en& ? ( i don't work for them or a shill)

[Steven85]

Spiro def has systemic absorption, it will drop your testosterone levels... Dont believe people when they tell you it doesn't...

So In other words spiro is something you can recommend and you disagree with Tom? Could you please elaborate on this?

[Harry S Truman]

So In other words spiro is something you can recommend and you disagree with Tom? Could you please elaborate on this?

Every person is different, i responded well to Spiro S5, but it def knocked down my testosterone and had difficulty operating on it and had to stop..... It was working because it was absorbing systemically..... All i can say is to try things an see what you respond to and what your body can tolerate...

[Steven85]

Ok. I think I know what to do now. I've already been using fin and nizoral for 5 weeks and will continue that.

Two scenarios for further additions:

1. I start using rogaine for 4-6 months. If I see regrowth within that time I continue with it. In time, if I see new signs of hair loss, I consider adding topical spiro.

2. If I see no regrowth with rogaine after 4-6 months I quit rogaine. Seeing as rogaine is for regrowth and not maintaining there is no point continuing it if I dont see regrowth in 4-6 months, right? If I havent seen regrowth within that time, there will most likely be no regrowth to gain? Ok, so I quit rogaine and then start using topical spiro instead to complement fin on maintaining what I have.

Does that make a good plan (please say yes)?

I might add biotin pills btw. Cant hurt, right?

[Harry S Truman]

Ok. I think I know what to do now. I've already been using fin and nizoral for 5 weeks and will continue that.

Two scenarios for further additions:

1. I start using rogaine for 4-6 months. If I see regrowth within that time I continue with it. In time, if I see new signs of hair loss, I consider adding topical spiro.

2. If I see no regrowth with rogaine after 4-6 months I quit rogaine. Seeing as rogaine is for regrowth and not maintaining there is no point continuing it if I dont see regrowth in 4-6 months, right? If I havent seen regrowth within that time, there will most likely be no regrowth to gain? Ok, so I quit rogaine and then start using topical spiro instead to complement fin on maintaining what I have.

Does that make a good plan (please say yes)?

I might add biotin pills btw. Cant hurt, right?

I didn't see much results with rogain till about the 1 year mark, but if i stopped, i def noticed a difference in my hair, so i would give it at least a year....

In short i would probably just add rogain to your regimen and stick with it, then down the line add spiro or Fluridil....