I was thinking if someone were an NW6, couldn't they transplant enough hairs to make them NW3 with decent density? Seems to make much more sense then giving a person with that severe hair loss an NW1 hairline with really ****ty density.
I agree, I would rather have a dense NW3 that sparse NW6 any day.
It is impossible to give a NW6 patient a NW1 hairline (without looking like cartoon character, literaly).
For a NW6 best possible result would be good NW3.5 or maybe thin NW3 at most best. That is using regular FUE, without BHT.
With BHT and bit of luck, it is possible to go from NW6 to even NW1.5-2, with decent density.
"Lets face it, confidence will never frame your face properly....a girl can't run her fingers through your confidence." - UC Man
The problem is that, for some reason, ALL HT surgeons are convinced that the "frontal" approach is best. So, in the case of a NW6, they will put 5,000+ grafts into the frontal core and hairline areas, and leave the vertex and crown practically untouched or very, very sparse. This creates a situation where the guy has a nice hairline and some hair in the frontal core, but very thin, see-through hair behind it in the vertex and crown. IMO, it has no "natural body" and fools nobody, which defeats it's own purpose.
He then is forced to grow his newly implanted hair very long and comb it back ... like a "front to back combover." This, IMO, looks fake on most guys, and it definately does not look like a "normal" balding pattern. IMO, it makes little difference who does the HT, these types of "frontal" HTs always look the same. Even the most skillful HT surgeons are still going to produce this same type of result. I think if anything, these are the type of HTs that people can spot, its not rocket science! Not worth it IMO. Better to just shave or buzz it and go sly.
IMO, a NW6 and NW7 should stay away from HTs, as they are just not a realistic option. I would also say the same thing about a NW5 in most cases.
IMO, NW4 is the cutoff for getting enough density to produce a realistic HT result, and even then it could go either way with a 50/50 chance of looking decent in the end.
Of course BHT can increase density, if a guy has plenty of usable body hair, which is not always the case. On the other hand, too much BHT on the head will also look rather strange and not very natural IMO, espeically if the guy's body hair type and characteristics is drastically different than his head hair.
But what do I know?
Nothing in particular.
I agree and disagree with the above posts. You can achieve decent result in NW 6 cases depending to the following:
-the pattern of the head (small, big, bigger)
-if you have lost all of your hair in the bald area of your scalp or if you have some, even fluffy hair, which can help the result or can become stronger using a therapy (ie big 3)
-also depends on your donor area (if for example you have many multi-haired grafts)
-and of course, if you are ready to extract and implant some of your body hairs (and especially beard hairs).
All the above gave me a very good result in my HT made by DHI (which was a NW 6 pattern case). See my thread for photos: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=71604
(I am trying to upload some more pictures but I get this message all the time: “…Sorry, the board attachment quota has been reached…” so you can only see some pictures there, or you can visit my thread in the Greek forum, in which I am also posting.
Past NW6, now NW2 with 6.217 grafts at DHI (minox 2ml/day + Spirolactone + fungoral 1/week)
My results: http://imgur.com/a/hyVtt#0
Your transformation is amazing!Originally Posted by Free
Your coverage is very good and you really cant be considered more than NW1.5 .
But i am asking how was is possible to do such a job with "just" 5.500 grafts in NW6 phase ?!
I saw vidoes of other doctors where they needed at least 10.000 grafts for NW6 - NW1.5-2 convertion.
"Lets face it, confidence will never frame your face properly....a girl can't run her fingers through your confidence." - UC Man
Well thank you for your comment. My answer is simple and is related with the comment I wrote in my previous post and cite bellow as well.
1. small head
2. a lot of multi haired grafts (3,4 even 5 haired-grafts). In total, adding the beard and body haired (which also gave some two-haired grafts) I have more than 11.500 hairs implanted in a rather small head.
3. a lot of fluffy-fuzzy nature hairs in my NW6 pattern. During my last HT at DHI they count around 20.000 native hairs in the area (using a pc microcamera by contrasting density and count hair charts, sorry for my English, I hope you understand what I am trying to say). Some of these hairs became stronger during the last 11 months by using a big 3 therapy. So actually, someone can say that the result is 70% HT and 30% therapy, which is the case for many other HT patients…
Past NW6, now NW2 with 6.217 grafts at DHI (minox 2ml/day + Spirolactone + fungoral 1/week)
My results: http://imgur.com/a/hyVtt#0
I see.Well thank you for your comment. My answer is simple and is related with the comment I wrote in my previous post and cite bellow as well.
1. small head
2. a lot of multi haired grafts (3,4 even 5 haired-grafts). In total, adding the beard and body haired (which also gave some two-haired grafts) I have more than 11.500 hairs implanted in a rather small head.
3. a lot of fluffy-fuzzy nature hairs in my NW6 pattern. During my last HT at DHI they count around 20.000 native hairs in the area (using a pc microcamera by contrasting density and count hair charts, sorry for my English, I hope you understand what I am trying to say). Some of these hairs became stronger during the last 11 months by using a big 3 therapy. So actually, someone can say that the result is 70% HT and 30% therapy, which is the case for many other HT patients…
Is it ok to ask aprox. cost of your HT journey?
Do you still have to use the meds and could you maybe in next 2 years do another HT using 1.500-2.000 (beard -body) grafts so you can drop the meds ?
"Lets face it, confidence will never frame your face properly....a girl can't run her fingers through your confidence." - UC Man
I have pay approximately 12.000 euros (with a small discount in the last two HTs because I’ve done them again at DHI). I can get another 1000-1500 grafts from my beard donor area in the future (for now I think that there is no need to do so). As far as medication is concerned, I take (approximately) 0,8 mg of finasteride every two days, minox twice daily and fungoral shampoo two days per week. I am not thinking of stopping them as they have helped me to enrich my HT result and probably they have more to offer in the near future. I have no cite effects and the only case I will stopping them (for a period) is when I decide to have children in the near future
Past NW6, now NW2 with 6.217 grafts at DHI (minox 2ml/day + Spirolactone + fungoral 1/week)
My results: http://imgur.com/a/hyVtt#0
That's an amazing transformation Free, if I saw you walking down the street I'd never know you had an HT.
Gives me hope for the future if my hair loss becomes more aggressive and I decide to get a hair transplant. I have a smallish to average size head and a ton of facial/body hair.
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