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    THE MSYTERY OF FOLLICA!!!

    Follica is a mystery.
    1)3 years ago Xconomy had a article on Follica, and Zohar mentioned that it was starting pre trails on 15-20 patients and said it would be one year it had results . What ever happened to the results?????
    Article Xconomy 1/4/2008
    "A proof of concept study involving 15 to 20 patients (Follica has no shortage of volunteers, as several hundred people sent in e-mails when word of Cotsarelis’s work reached the public) should begin in the next few months. The trial has several phases, however, and Zohar cautions that final data won’t be in for at least a year. So don’t pull your hair out waiting for results."
    Xconomy 8/12/2008
    With the regulatory path relatively clear, Follica’s plan was to use its Series A money to quickly begin a small proof of concept study, involving 15 to 20 patients. Zohar yesterday confirmed that a pilot study is underway but wouldn’t confirm where or give any other details on its timing other than to tacitly stick to the timeline she laid out in January, when she said that final data from the study would not be available for at least a year. “Everything is progressing on track,” she now says. “We are moving as quickly as possible within the constraints of clinically driven medicine.”


    3)Zohar mentioned that the products being used for this technology are already FDA approved and wouldn't have to go through the whole FDA trails stages. SO what is taking so Long?
    Article Xconomy 1/4/2008 and written again in 8/2008 article
    "Zohar says Follica has further developed this work and filed additional patents to protect the technology. What’s so beautiful about the approach, she says, is that translating it into a treatment for humans involves only devices and drugs that are already on the market. A doctor would first use a microdermabrasion tool, say, or a laser to remove the top layers of the skin—as is already commonly done in a number of dermatologic and cosmetic procedures—knocking some cells back into a primitive state. The doctor can then use this newly created therapeutic window to inject drugs that push the cells to develop along one pathway or another and grow hair or skin. Zohar won’t reveal what drugs Follica is using, except to say that they are small molecule drugs normally taken orally for purposes with no relation to hair growth."


    How can a company Raise money for Series A and B and not have something to show for it. Why would anyone invest millions into something that wouldn't have merit. But Dr. Cots says they havent even started humans trails yet.
    Xconomy 5/13/09
    "What, exactly, Follica’s next step is—and when it will occur—is of intense interest to many of Xconomy’s readers, who struck up an often-spirited conversation on the site after we reported Follica’s $5.5 million Series A round in January 2008 and continued the discussion after the startup’s $11 million Series B funding last August." And they they come out and say in 6/2010 they raised another 7 million for there series b.


    Is it a mystery or not. They said they have the technology, they obviously have the money, 3 years ago it was said they were in pre trials, but its almost 2011 and now they say there still experimenting and havent started human trails. Dr Cot said in a 2009 they were still 5 years away from market. So i ask, What ever happened to the pre trials results? How have they raised so much money and from what Dr Cots says are still in experimental and delivery method developments.? Why is this company being so weird?
    Its either 1 of 2 things.
    1-The technology they had back in 2006 -2008 that worked on mice didn't work on humans in the pretrials and had to develop a new technology or delivery method.
    2-Or they are in humans trials but are saying there not so when they complete there trails will shock the world.

    What does everyone think?

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    Re: THE MSYTERY OF FOLLICA!!!

    I doubt it too and do not know what happened

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    an update...I was thinking that they are already out of competition...

    http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2011/03/3 ... invention/

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    andrei_eremenko - following your link, I found that TrichoScience is still in the running.

    http://google.brand.edgar-online.com...yid%253d386723

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    Re: THE MSYTERY OF FOLLICA!!!

    the companies that provide temporary not 100% reversible hairloss solutions I'm sure just turn up with wads of cash and buy out any competition or potential sniffs of a cure / permanent result in one procedure. Like all this great promising trials we keep hearing about that never end up finishing or coming to the market.

    Do you really think multi million dollar corporations like the people who own minoxidil will allow a cure for hairloss to just pop up?

    The world is corrupt and things happen behind closed doors. Billions of dollars are made on temporary solutions.... The people with the money control the game.

    For example who killed the electric car? We all know there is a 'cure' and ways of creating alternative cars yet.... greedy people who control the monopoly on that situation squash every instance of a 'cure' arriving for the motor industry to revolutionize the way our world works.

    Sorry to sound like a downer, but we should always think cautiously about this stuff.

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    there is no mystery and no Follica, thats a dead horse... wake up people
    "our greatest glory is not in never falling, but rising each time we fall"

    My thread

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    I don't want to get peoples hopes up, but it seems Follica is either in the process of Phase II trials, or recently completed Phase II trials.

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    Re: THE MSYTERY OF FOLLICA!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sammo
    the companies that provide temporary not 100% reversible hairloss solutions I'm sure just turn up with wads of cash and buy out any competition or potential sniffs of a cure / permanent result in one procedure. Like all this great promising trials we keep hearing about that never end up finishing or coming to the market.

    Do you really think multi million dollar corporations like the people who own minoxidil will allow a cure for hairloss to just pop up?

    The world is corrupt and things happen behind closed doors. Billions of dollars are made on temporary solutions.... The people with the money control the game.

    For example who killed the electric car? We all know there is a 'cure' and ways of creating alternative cars yet.... greedy people who control the monopoly on that situation squash every instance of a 'cure' arriving for the motor industry to revolutionize the way our world works.

    Sorry to sound like a downer, but we should always think cautiously about this stuff.
    Yeah but you seem to forget that even if there was a cure, there will ALWAYS be bald/balding people...cure one bald person, another balding/bald person takes his place. With minoxidil and propecia, once they lose their effectiveness the drug companies will lose money, so it is all relative.

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    Re: THE MSYTERY OF FOLLICA!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sammo
    the companies that provide temporary not 100% reversible hairloss solutions I'm sure just turn up with wads of cash and buy out any competition or potential sniffs of a cure / permanent result in one procedure. Like all this great promising trials we keep hearing about that never end up finishing or coming to the market.

    Do you really think multi million dollar corporations like the people who own minoxidil will allow a cure for hairloss to just pop up?

    The world is corrupt and things happen behind closed doors. Billions of dollars are made on temporary solutions.... The people with the money control the game.

    For example who killed the electric car? We all know there is a 'cure' and ways of creating alternative cars yet.... greedy people who control the monopoly on that situation squash every instance of a 'cure' arriving for the motor industry to revolutionize the way our world works.

    Sorry to sound like a downer, but we should always think cautiously about this stuff.
    Too much conspiracy theories.

    First, companies don't care about long term profits. They want the maximum amount of cash in a short period of time to impress their investors. Never hear how a company stocks fall when they still make a profit, but it was less than the previous quarter?
    If a company can sell a complete solution for $10,000 instead of selling a foam each month for $15, they will gladly do it.
    Yes, we live in a gready world. What about Pfizer or any other big pharma? Do you really think they are part of a big conspiracy to put baldies down? If they had a propecia-killer treatment they would had already market it.

    There is no conspiracy, there is just no treatment available yet.
    And where do people get that Minox and fin get most of the cake? I'm pretty sure the biggest sellers of treatments are cosmetic companies selling shampoos that don't even work

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    I am surprised nobody is talking about the fact that Follica are in Phase II trials. That is ahead of Histogen.

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