Hair Loss Treatments
Hair Loss & Alopecia Information, Support, and Treatments
Page 1 of 7 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 63
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    347

    Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    http://www.androscience.com/Design/A...2008Update.pdf

    For lazy people, important points from the document below:

    i) Phase-II trial (for acne) to finish in June 2008
    ii) Phase-II trial of foam based ASCJ-9 for Androgentic Alopecia in men starts in Q4 this year!
    i) Androscience is coming up with a new website (which is also a hint that they are getting ready for the real deal)

    I'm absolutely positively 100% sure that they've got good results from phase-II trials for acne and thats why they are proceeding with foam based trials for androgentic alopecia (hairloss).

    This is reaaally good news guys, finally we could have a foam based receptor destroyer without the sides :-)

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    107

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    Hopefully this treatment works better than propecia.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    326

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    So the drug is here in like 3-4 years? if all goes well

    Time for people to get on Proxiphen(-n) and fin and maybe minox to, to get the maximum effect until something good comes out.

    But again, we have alot good anti-androgenic topicals. They just dont work as well as we hope. Proctor says on his website "Arguably, the most promising antiandrogen is Propecia ( finasteride), from Merck. Tho the weakest antiandrogen on paper, it seems to be as effective as the others in baldness treatment. My experience is that oral finasteride works about as well as topical spironolactone, about a 50% response rate, at one year. Some individuals take even longer to respond."

    Hope ASCJ-9 works great, I would love to get something that I only apply a couple of times a week with no sides. If it works and it comes out at the same time as Follicas treatment, it would be a nice time to be a unlucky dude with the baldness gene.
    Losing your hair is like losing someone close to you.

  4. #4
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Posts
    28

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    maybe this will encourage follica and others to speed things up if they can. so if one had the follica treatment could you still use the other to maximise results? one maybe never need minoxidil or fin again or am i wrong?

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    134

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    That is excellent news! Sounds like they got good results with their acne cream, which means that should work just as well for people who only have bi-temporal or bare crown loss etc. The cream product might be out in just a couple of years.
    Propecia.....destroying hairlines since 1996.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Age
    37
    Posts
    199

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    anything besides fin and minox is good news
    Merck would never make anything to hurt you.

    Sincerely,

    Vioxx

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    347

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SoThatsLife
    So the drug is here in like 3-4 years? if all goes well

    Time for people to get on Proxiphen(-n) and fin and maybe minox to, to get the maximum effect until something good comes out.

    But again, we have alot good anti-androgenic topicals. They just dont work as well as we hope. Proctor says on his website "Arguably, the most promising antiandrogen is Propecia ( finasteride), from Merck. Tho the weakest antiandrogen on paper, it seems to be as effective as the others in baldness treatment. My experience is that oral finasteride works about as well as topical spironolactone, about a 50% response rate, at one year. Some individuals take even longer to respond."

    Hope ASCJ-9 works great, I would love to get something that I only apply a couple of times a week with no sides. If it works and it comes out at the same time as Follicas treatment, it would be a nice time to be a unlucky dude with the baldness gene.
    Its a topical not a pill - it'll be like rogaine foam but would act like propecia. The main benefit is that its not systemic which means it won't have sexual sides that accompany propecia/dutas, and it might be more potent than finas as well.

  8. #8
    Senior Member el_duterino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    447

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    was anyone able to try Cayman medical powder ? maybe worth a try if we cannot wait for the 3-4 years before the final foam gets approved
    My Regimen:

    Only RU 58841 60 mg in 2/3 Ethanol and 1/3 PG, daily

    Currently NW1.5, diffuse thinning top/front/temples
    Age 42. MBP started at age 27.

    Started FIN in 1998 ->thickening of hair and best initial results
    After 6 years on FIN switched to DUT >good results but with side effects
    After 4 on DUT added topical Flutamide, and Fluridil. More sides from Flutamide.
    Fluridil is too weak.

    Then added RU, dropped DUT. >good results, no more sides

    Been using RU only, for 3 years with zero hair loss.

  9. #9
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    347

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by el_duterino
    was anyone able to try Cayman medical powder ? maybe worth a try if we cannot wait for the 3-4 years before the final foam gets approved
    They're done with phase-II already. I doubt it will take 3-4 years, maybe 2 at most!

  10. #10
    Senior Member harold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    442

    Re: Topical Foam version of ASCJ-9 - Trials starting soon!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SoThatsLife
    But again, we have alot good anti-androgenic topicals. They just dont work as well as we hope.
    We dont have any topical antiandrogens. Unless you count things like EGCG etc.
    hh

Similar Threads

  1. New Neosil ph2 trials starting May (ph2c)
    By bobs in forum New Research, Studies, and Technologies
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: March 17th, 2008, 12:06 PM
  2. Why is topical RU 58841 stuck in phase 2 trials so long.
    By phish in forum Men's General Hair Loss Discussions
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: February 2nd, 2008, 10:43 AM
  3. New topical immunosuppressant now in clinical trials
    By michael barry in forum Alternative Treatments
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: July 21st, 2007, 09:39 PM
  4. A topical anti-androgen is in phase 2 trials in Europe..
    By youngbaldie in forum New Research, Studies, and Technologies
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: May 14th, 2007, 01:52 PM
  5. What about a topical version of fin
    By in forum Men's General Hair Loss Discussions
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: February 23rd, 2004, 06:59 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •